-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, I am just doing some planning for my own exits at the moment and researching the legal provisions and experience for a variety of jurisdictions. If anyone has any experience of raids as a result of running a Tor relay or other legal troubles, I'd appreciate it if you got in touch (privately preferably) for a quick chat. Of course any information supplied will be kept anonymous unless you are explicitly happy to make a statement openly about it. Sharing our experiences will certainly help us understand the climate much better. Regards, T - -- Activist, anarchist and a bit of a dreamer. Keybase: https://keybase.io/thomaswhite PGP Keys: https://www.thecthulhu.com/pgp-keys/ Current Fingerprint: BA81 407C BD61 CD15 E5D9 ADA9 5FA2 426F F34E 0FD4 Master Fingerprint: DDEF AB9B 1962 5D09 4264 2558 1F23 39B7 EF10 09F0 Twitter: @CthulhuSec XMPP: thecthulhu at jabber.ccc.de XMPP-OTR: 4321B19F A9A3462C FE64BAC7 294C8A7E A53CC966 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU9wF8AAoJEF+iQm/zTg/ULJcQAJsrVYjdBpXiIGKcN7fFuDzm RqttupBoTifsKpWfX46lgnSAquZQ6qDMqT2zBZ0fe7fni1vfp/E9bld8ryLTLvoK to47exo08HLj+9H6ZaVwirdRC94GHYOViCE/4BMm0VWEXrFww5ytAuCrukhIzK/Z QS/Lgu3tI/BubHS02hkI5sZNO9Ej9T4wlYREyRdldI7j4zBP/FhQCEfJY5g0U3gb AnW2Go+ItINuFLsccr9m/uCuIwBz6o/WNHgLp8B4wU2T9hvWNxc/h1P5Y9l5RrWx N9/wgCT1K8Dw8OjvdfUchzbcOQo8C+1aWbYPy0eK7v+5V8PyCrU4DGtvJRO36iNV TcpxXRFcsAjOGYOo1bMDF6g2sLj3T22zoS76BNTtq7F7i1JDkDHY3j2uXHG0Ex2j hPVFsjHDr4+qqfS98knW4bpLjEOnYZUMrvuSE5iQG1ngMqFV1mpWZVHbWQozL3cb ZXm9kxY9HeVCwyc4a2V+TWY2QvYIaVaMTaXyUfh8lOTshrnPV3KagLozaaAWHS/u KFEbDfF0iJFD6muvxbu0yVRsIcrkPryJDjlGcbxH3pKEntaZgXVK/MJB6X/TLNsI l2KC4OlCeW2sScNc9epiAy15HgNswWvKbwM6WjreNf+sbZ/7vvSrLcNXdzoRHBwt +evkDqeeobkhAWPMlBU+ =vv6k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi *
I am just doing some planning for my own exits at the moment and researching the legal provisions and experience for a variety of jurisdictions.
my story is rather typical - I'm not proud of it but hopefully someone will learn my lesson w/o legal fees :) I'm located in Germany and ran an exit at my home DSL, in 2008 and 2009 (that's half of the "I'm not proud" part). Someone opened/cracked a box and used it to distribute child pornography, the owner realised this some time later and the police found my IP address in the logs. After nearly one year (I'm still baffled, one would hope this kind of crime is handled faster) my flat was searched and every single computer seized: To be clear, I was the one charged with this crime, the prosecutor wasn't aware (or ignored) the Tor node. After 1.5 years (or so) the case was closed because the prosecutor wasn't able to prove my guilt[0]. During the criminal proceedings I discussed with my lawyer if we should disclose the Tor node but we decided this would only complicate the matter. Today I run only a middle relay, exit nodes in Germany should imho always part of an umbrella organisation (e.g. an "Eingetragener Verein" [registered association?], ignoring this is part 2 of "I'm not proud") so an individual is not personally liable (if someone is interested: I donate to the Wau Holland Stiftung[1], one project of this trust is supporting the Tor network). Renke [0] I know I'm not guilty ;) [1] http://www.wauland.de/en/index.php
On 03/04/2015 01:58 PM, Thomas White wrote:
I am just doing some planning for my own exits at the moment and researching the legal provisions and experience for a variety of jurisdictions.
Please add your findigs to the respective section at https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorExitGuidelines -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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