Hello everyone,
at Nos-Oignons[1], we're getting spammed, not only on abuse@nos-oignons.net, but also on our contact email, and so is our hoster and its upstream but Netcraft[2]. Of course, we started by diligently answering the emails, but now it does feel like a waste of everybody's time. We told them we're hosting tor nodes, and that there is little we can do to prevent morons from abusing the network and using our relays for bad things™, but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.
Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone? If so, is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?
Than,s
1. https://nos-oignons.net 2. https://www.netcraft.com/cybercrime/countermeasures/
jvoisin via tor-relays tor-relays@lists.torproject.org wrote:
Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone?
You're not alone, they're desperately trying to advertise themselves and you shouldn't give them any form of importance by replying to them. In fact, they will probably discard your reply as the purpose of their Spam is to advertise their crap rather than actually report a serious problem.
but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.
Just filter them out?
is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?
You will receive a lot of garbage like this from people trying to build themselves a reputation of Internet White Knight. Just send them to trash.
Eventually, if it looks like the sender may read your answer, either try to educate them. If they persist, you may do as we do, make fun of their stupidity.
However, this may not work if you're not running your own network and have a crappy ISP. In this case, you probably shouldn't host a Tor relay at them.
On 1/10/23 00:01, tor-operator@urdn.com.ua wrote:
jvoisin via tor-relays tor-relays@lists.torproject.org wrote:
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but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.
Just filter them out?
is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?
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Would an autoresponder (with anti-loop precautions) be an option? Say, whatever replaced procmail? That would take the tedium out of it and still allow a form letter to be sent to the offending address.
/Lars
PS. Thank you in advance for not top-posting.
Some time ago I started publishing the regexes I run on my mailserver to drop spam like this. The criteria for showing up is that you have to repeatedly send garbage and not bother responding (or respond with disdain) to followups. Happy to accept patches to grow the list!
https://git.bitcoin.ninja/index.cgi?p=abuse-spammers;a=tree;h=refs/heads/mai...
Matt
On 1/9/23 10:20 AM, jvoisin via tor-relays wrote:
Hello everyone,
at Nos-Oignons[1], we're getting spammed, not only on abuse@nos-oignons.net, but also on our contact email, and so is our hoster and its upstream but Netcraft[2]. Of course, we started by diligently answering the emails, but now it does feel like a waste of everybody's time. We told them we're hosting tor nodes, and that there is little we can do to prevent morons from abusing the network and using our relays for bad things™, but the netcraft spam keeps coming, annoying everyone.
Is this something other operators have seen too or are we alone? If so, is there anything that can be done to make them understand what's going on?
Than,s
tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
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