The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. For years Blutmagie has been a fantastic resource for the Tor community and I am writing to express my gratitude to Olaf for his wonderful contribution and the time and effort he expended maintaining it. Thank you Olaf!
Hear Hear! -----Original Message----- From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 12:51 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Blutmagie retired The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. For years Blutmagie has been a fantastic resource for the Tor community and I am writing to express my gratitude to Olaf for his wonderful contribution and the time and effort he expended maintaining it. Thank you Olaf! _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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On 9. Nov 2018, at 19:50, starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx wrote:
The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. For years Blutmagie has been a fantastic resource for the Tor community and I am writing to express my gratitude to Olaf for his wonderful contribution and the time and effort he expended maintaining it.
Thank you Olaf!
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starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx:
The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. For years Blutmagie has been a fantastic resource for the Tor community and I am writing to express my gratitude to Olaf for his wonderful contribution and the time and effort he expended maintaining it.
Thank you Olaf!
+1 from me. Thanks for maintaining it for so long Olaf. g -- 34A6 0A1F F8EF B465 866F F0C5 5D92 1FD1 ECF6 1682
That service was a godsend thanks Olaf, Thanks for all work, love and care! -Willmar On 11/9/18 8:00 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
* starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx:
The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. I'm sorry to hear that the service is no longer available. My thanks to Olaf for his long-time work!
-Ralph _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Hi all, I knew that starting this journey would be a wild ride where I would learn and experience a lot! But now that my first abuse complaints have appeared I feel a bit on edge while I reply to them, frantically checking my spelling dotting my I's and crossing my T's. Will these emails always feel so scary to reply to? or do they start to feel just normal after a while? What was it all like in the beginning when you guys opened up your first exit? Kind regards, - Willmar On 11/9/18 11:14 PM, DrNotThatEvil wrote:
That service was a godsend thanks Olaf, Thanks for all work, love and care!
-Willmar
On 11/9/18 8:00 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
* starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx:
The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. I'm sorry to hear that the service is no longer available. My thanks to Olaf for his long-time work!
-Ralph _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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you are getting used to it. modify the https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates> templates to your liking and send out the response. just wait for your first subpoena :) markus
On 10. Nov 2018, at 00:26, DrNotThatEvil <relay@wilv.in> wrote:
Hi all,
I knew that starting this journey would be a wild ride where I would learn and experience a lot! But now that my first abuse complaints have appeared I feel a bit on edge while I reply to them, frantically checking my spelling dotting my I's and crossing my T's.
Will these emails always feel so scary to reply to? or do they start to feel just normal after a while? What was it all like in the beginning when you guys opened up your first exit?
Kind regards,
- Willmar
On 11/9/18 11:14 PM, DrNotThatEvil wrote:
That service was a godsend thanks Olaf, Thanks for all work, love and care!
-Willmar
On 11/9/18 8:00 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
* starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx:
The operator of Blutmagie Torstatus, Olaf Selke has retired the service. I'm sorry to hear that the service is no longer available. My thanks to Olaf for his long-time work!
-Ralph _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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Let's hope my it's not gonna happen anytime soon. Now I kinda regret that I didn't sign up for the "IT and legal" class at my school. - willmar On 11/10/18 12:33 AM, niftybunny wrote:
you are getting used to it.
modify the https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates templates to your liking and send out the response.
just wait for your first subpoena :)
markus
On 10. Nov 2018, at 00:26, DrNotThatEvil <relay@wilv.in <mailto:relay@wilv.in>> wrote:
Hi all,
I knew that starting this journey would be a wild ride where I would learn and experience a lot! But now that my first abuse complaints have appeared I feel a bit on edge while I reply to them, frantically checking my spelling dotting my I's and crossing my T's.
Will these emails always feel so scary to reply to? or do they start to feel just normal after a while? What was it all like in the beginning when you guys opened up your first exit?
Kind regards,
- Willmar
you are also getting used to subpoenas. if you are in a western country it should be legal. from my experience you don’t have to fear the higher tier police aka federal state police or secret service, they know what they are doing. if you are living in a small village you perhaps should contact the local police. they have no IT department, so no clue and thats what would be worrying to me. enjoy your ride! markus
On 10. Nov 2018, at 00:41, DrNotThatEvil <relay@wilv.in> wrote:
Let's hope my it's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Now I kinda regret that I didn't sign up for the "IT and legal" class at my school.
- willmar
On 11/10/18 12:33 AM, niftybunny wrote:
you are getting used to it.
modify the https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorAbuseTemplates templates to your liking and send out the response.
just wait for your first subpoena :)
markus
On 10. Nov 2018, at 00:26, DrNotThatEvil <relay@wilv.in <mailto:relay@wilv.in>> wrote:
Hi all,
I knew that starting this journey would be a wild ride where I would learn and experience a lot! But now that my first abuse complaints have appeared I feel a bit on edge while I reply to them, frantically checking my spelling dotting my I's and crossing my T's.
Will these emails always feel so scary to reply to? or do they start to feel just normal after a while? What was it all like in the beginning when you guys opened up your first exit?
Kind regards,
- Willmar
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Am 09.11.2018 um 23:14 schrieb DrNotThatEvil:
That service was a godsend thanks Olaf, Thanks for all work, love and care!
thanx for all the flowers :-) I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site. regards Olaf
* Olaf Selke:
I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to switch to letsencrypt [...]
It just has to be said: Creating a single-host Let's Encrypt cert is very easy on Debian Linux, which you seem to be using. Install Certbot, shutdown Apache, run Certbot, modify Apache's certificate path settings, start Apache. I'd offer to do it for you, but somehow I doubt you'll grant me root access to your server. ;-) No pressure. -Ralph
Hallo Olaf, hat dir schon jemand für Blutmagie kostenloses hosting anzubieten? Ich habe genug freie Resourcen, wenn du von mir eine VM dafür haben möchtest. Die SSL-Zertifikate könnte man doch wunderbar per Let's Encrypt machen, oder nicht? Viele Grüße, Matthias On 2018-11-11 12:51, Olaf Selke wrote:
Am 09.11.2018 um 23:14 schrieb DrNotThatEvil:
That service was a godsend thanks Olaf, Thanks for all work, love and care!
thanx for all the flowers :-)
I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site.
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At Sun Nov 11 11:51:36 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote
thanx for all the flowers :-)
I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site.
I don't think anyone would be bothered if you put an ad-service on the page to generate some revenue. Should cover the cost and generate a small profit. Torstatus is nice!
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:17 AM <starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx> wrote:
At Sun Nov 11 11:51:36 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote
thanx for all the flowers :-)
I took the ssl certificate expiration 11/06 as an occasion to discontinue the service. Actually behind the scenes everything is still running. The mysql db is fed with Tor live data. Only the Apache config prevents access. I'm just too lazy to renew the ssl certificate or to switch to letsencrypt and I declined offers sell the site.
I don't think anyone would be bothered if you put an ad-service on the page to generate some revenue.
Please don't. Ad services are far too often used to distribute malware. Some kind of community-funding jar would be much safer. (Patreon, ko.fi, etc). zw
Am 14.11.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Zack Weinberg:
Please don't. Ad services are far too often used to distribute malware. Some kind of community-funding jar would be much safer. (Patreon, ko.fi, etc).
https://torstatus.blutmagie.de is resurrected :-) Today I spend the amount of 17 USD for a new ssl certificate. Next step is to negotiate more ram with my Russian provider. 2 GB working set became too small for the mysql db and about 30-50 concurrent Apache processes. regarding ads: I would have to pay income tax for revenues generated with ad services. No kidding! German tax offices are Legion. They do not forgive. They do not forget. By the way, what is wrong with https://torstatus.rueckgr.at? Basically this site provides the same information as blutmagie. Olaf
Wed Nov 14 14:55:52 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote:
Am 14.11.2018 um 15:20 schrieb Zack Weinberg:
Ad services are far too often used to distribute malware.
The worst of this is past, mostly solved. Folks who come up with these target high volume sites to pay for the huge investment in time to develop exploits and game past ad-service defenses. Survival rate a few of days in the wild. Salad days for the bad guys are gone.
Some kind of community-funding jar would be much safer. (Patreon, ko.fi, etc).
no doubt, but it's fair and reasonable for site operators to generate some ad revenue; multirbl.valli.org did it for ages though he seems to have stopped, perhaps for the reason mentioned below
https://torstatus.blutmagie.de is resurrected :-) Today I spend the amount of 17 USD for a new ssl certificate. Next step is to negotiate more ram with my Russian provider. 2 GB working set became too small for the mysql db and about 30-50 concurrent Apache processes.
Fabulous, thank you! (perhaps Nginx could swap in place of Apache and use less memory)
regarding ads:
I would have to pay income tax for revenues generated with ad services. No kidding! German tax offices are Legion. They do not forgive. They do not forget.
A practical concern, interesting they chase small web sites though I suppose the tax offices have it automated. Does a threshold minimum for filing exist? Perhaps a test to see if worth the trouble to fill out forms and write checks. I'd guess ad services generate helpful reports for that.
By the way, what is wrong with https://torstatus.rueckgr.at? Basically this site provides the same information as blutmagie.
Blutmagie is more polished in the details, has kept up with Tor changes. I like especially that bandwidth numbers are actual utilization rather than observed maximum. Individual relay page graphs work. Only issue is page rendering a bit slow, probably due to dynamic calculation of row height. Not a web dev but I am willing to look at figuring out how to correct that and contribute a change.
Am 15.11.2018 um 00:13 schrieb starlight.2018q2@binnacle.cx:
Wed Nov 14 14:55:52 UTC 2018 Olaf Selke olaf.selke at blutmagie.de wrote:
regarding ads:
I would have to pay income tax for revenues generated with ad services. No kidding! German tax offices are Legion. They do not forgive. They do not forget.
A practical concern, interesting they chase small web sites though I suppose the tax offices have it automated. Does a threshold minimum for filing exist?
I know they chase ebay sellers. In Germany one has to pay income tax on the total amount of income. In my case this is what I earn in my job plus the hypothetical revenues from ad services. Only about 9.000 Euros income per year is the tax-free amount. Olaf
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Ralph Seichter -
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Zack Weinberg