Hello, I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays. The AS it's on has no plain relays, just exit relays. That's what has me wondering what to do. So, what is the general consensus - should it be an exit or just a plain relay? Thanks, Conrad -- Conrad Rockenhaus https://www.rockenhaus.com Cell: (254) 292-3350 Fax: (254) 875-0459
I think exit.
On Apr 4, 2019, at 11:03, Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
Hello,
I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays. The AS it's on has no plain relays, just exit relays. That's what has me wondering what to do.
So, what is the general consensus - should it be an exit or just a plain relay?
Thanks,
Conrad
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On 2019-04-04 10:02, Conrad Rockenhaus wrote:
Hello,
I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays. The AS it's on has no plain relays, just exit relays. That's what has me wondering what to do.
So, what is the general consensus - should it be an exit or just a plain relay?
High speed exits are harder to come by, but I'm not sure if the AS concentration makes a difference. I think the value of an exit still likely overwhelms this consideration.
On 4/4/19, Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays. The AS it's on has no plain relays, just exit relays. That's what has me wondering what to do.
https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth-flags.html Exit and non-exit appear both roughly equal at around 50% utilization. Perhaps a coin toss there. https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html There may be long term performance trends to try enhancing or reversing as desired. https://metrics.torproject.org/relayflags.html There's 1000 exits, fraction that are variously p0wn3d is unknown. Was mentioned above the AS is already represented by exits, so diversity needs there may be moot, unless traffic there is added up and found to be disproportionally low compared to other AS, region, etc. https://metrics.torproject.org/services.html https://metrics.torproject.org/ There are more resources here. If all else equal, the answer may be... do you prefer to grow the ISP relationship as an exit from today, including any extra fraffic costs and cancellation or legal exposure, or prefer to enable the exit forms of those four later on. Or survey other ISP and locations for the tor node. Or even assist other network overlay projects with their nodes. Lots of considerations can go into success and diversity of the privacy anonymity freedom space overall when wondering "what to do with my box" :)
AS19624 only has four exits, two instances run on another person's FreeBSD server, and I have two dedicated servers, with one more dedicated server sitting idle. Currently, total bandwidth contribution is 81.27 MiB/s, but note that the first relay in this AS came online on March 15th. This AS is announced from two datacenters, one in NYC and the other in Bucharest, Hungry. I'm not worried about cancellation or legal exposure, they are very Tor friendly, and I'm working on their OpenStack Cloud, so I have some interaction with them. They understand the wonderful automated bots that send emails and the occasional real human that may ask for information, so that portion is covered. Now, the two datacenters sites have a sufficient bandwidth and are connected to three providers (one Tier 1) with a significant number of peers to support more Tor relays. I know there's a desire for AS diversity within the network, given the large amount of relays concentrated in three or four major providers. So, in this AS, traffic is disproportionally low compared to other ASes. I would like your recommendations. Thanks, Conrad On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 1:35 PM grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/4/19, Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays. The AS it's on has no plain relays, just exit relays. That's what has me wondering what to do.
https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth-flags.html Exit and non-exit appear both roughly equal at around 50% utilization. Perhaps a coin toss there.
https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html There may be long term performance trends to try enhancing or reversing as desired.
https://metrics.torproject.org/relayflags.html There's 1000 exits, fraction that are variously p0wn3d is unknown.
Was mentioned above the AS is already represented by exits, so diversity needs there may be moot, unless traffic there is added up and found to be disproportionally low compared to other AS, region, etc.
https://metrics.torproject.org/services.html https://metrics.torproject.org/ There are more resources here.
If all else equal, the answer may be... do you prefer to grow the ISP relationship as an exit from today, including any extra fraffic costs and cancellation or legal exposure, or prefer to enable the exit forms of those four later on.
Or survey other ISP and locations for the tor node.
Or even assist other network overlay projects with their nodes.
Lots of considerations can go into success and diversity of the privacy anonymity freedom space overall when wondering "what to do with my box" :) _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
-- Conrad Rockenhaus https://www.rockenhaus.com Cell: (254) 292-3350 Fax: (254) 875-0459
Am 04.04.2019 18:02, schrieb Conrad Rockenhaus:
I have a FreeBSD box on a 1 Gbit/s connection. I'm trying to determine if we need more high speed relays or high speed exit relays.
You mean _10_Gbit/s uplink. ;-) If your hoster is not in Rwanda or something, 1Gbit is normal nowadays. There can never be too many exits on the network! Each exit can also act as a gard or middle relay. This makes the Tor network automatic. If you can do an exit, then do it. -- Ciao Marco!
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