Location of Tor relays being incorrectly reported in Atlas
Hi guys, Two of my Tor relays are being reported as being located within the USA within Atlas; these nodes are actually located within London, UK - the location is correctly identified when using an IP->Location service. I’m just wondering why this would occur? The two IP addresses are: 178.62.75.82 178.62.77.54 Thanks guys, Joshua Lee Tucker
Joshua Lee Tucker transcribed 4.6K bytes:
Hi guys,
Two of my Tor relays are being reported as being located within the USA within Atlas; these nodes are actually located within London, UK - the location is correctly identified when using an IP->Location service.
I’m just wondering why this would occur?
The two IP addresses are: 178.62.75.82 178.62.77.54
Thanks guys,
Joshua Lee Tucker
Hey Joshua, This used to happen to my exit relay in Japan, which was reported by Atlas to be in China (causing me to have a minor freakout). The explanation that I was given was that the Maxmind GeoIP database (which Tor uses in a slightly modified form) is created by Maxmind in some manner where, even if the IP assignments show that the IP should be in one region, if the IP happens to be more frequently "in communication" with another region, then it's marked as being in that other region. However, this explanation seems erroneous and doesn't really make sense to me… so perhaps someone else can explain more. :) -- ♥Ⓐ isis agora lovecruft _________________________________________________________ OpenPGP: 4096R/0A6A58A14B5946ABDE18E207A3ADB67A2CDB8B35 Current Keys: https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/isis.txt
On January 3, 2015 6:22:59 PM isis <isis@torproject.org> wrote: Hi,
Joshua Lee Tucker transcribed 4.6K bytes:
Hi guys,
Two of my Tor relays are being reported as being located within the USA within Atlas; these nodes are actually located within London, UK - the location is correctly identified when using an IP->Location service.
I’m just wondering why this would occur?
The two IP addresses are: 178.62.75.82 178.62.77.54
Thanks guys,
Joshua Lee Tucker
Hey Joshua,
This used to happen to my exit relay in Japan, which was reported by Atlas to be in China (causing me to have a minor freakout).
The explanation that I was given was that the Maxmind GeoIP database (which Tor uses in a slightly modified form) is created by Maxmind in some manner where, even if the IP assignments show that the IP should be in one region, if the IP happens to be more frequently "in communication" with another region, then it's marked as being in that other region. However, this explanation seems erroneous and doesn't really make sense to me… so perhaps someone else can explain more. :)
I just tried the ip's on the maxmind website, out of curiosity and its 2x US. -- Sincerely yours / Sincères salutations Sebastian Urbach ----------------------------------------- Definition of Tor: 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain and 100% reason to remember the name! -----------------------------------------
Robtex.com and traceroute came up as London if I am reading them correctly Robert
Yes, it's London but GeoIP reports it wrong, my relay is in the same AS. It's a (relatively) new DataCenter for DO, so it's possible that they've changed the IP blocks recently, maybe digging into the history of their assignment would show them to previously be registered in the US, the DC however is in London, UK. On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:35:35 -0800 I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
Robtex.com and traceroute came up as London if I am reading them correctly
Robert
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This is bound to happen a fair bit now with the final allocations of blocks as IPv4 started running out, I have a b unch of servers that the GEOIP database lists as being in UK, Russia and various other places where they actually aren't. =D -- Kura t: @kuramanga [https://twitter.com/kuramanga] w: https://kura.io/ [https://kura.io/] g: @kura [http://git.io/kura] On 03/01/2015 23:46:12, cacahuatl <cacahuatl@autistici.org> wrote: Yes, it's London but GeoIP reports it wrong, my relay is in the same AS. It's a (relatively) new DataCenter for DO, so it's possible that they've changed the IP blocks recently, maybe digging into the history of their assignment would show them to previously be registered in the US, the DC however is in London, UK. On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:35:35 -0800 I wrote:
Robtex.com and traceroute came up as London if I am reading them correctly
Robert
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/15 15:25, Joshua Lee Tucker wrote:
Hi guys,
Two of my Tor relays are being reported as being located within the USA within Atlas; these nodes are actually located within London, UK - the location is correctly identified when using an IP->Location service.
I’m just wondering why this would occur?
The two IP addresses are: 178.62.75.82 178.62.77.54
Thanks guys,
Joshua Lee Tucker
The latest GeoLite2 database says USA for these addresses: ::ffff:178.62.64.0,114,6252001,,,,38.0000,-97.0000,0,0 6252001,NA,"North America",US,"United States",,,,, But maybe this address range was recently transferred and the next database will correctly resolve them to the UK. All the best, Karsten -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUqCb8AAoJEJd5OEYhk8hIZegIAJ9QVPt+wjE6S5qtzihV9KDS lzRSwm1/N+TrH0GAhm3j0wQvMSGKl7iHxvAR77ku1OghOm8nVCWCRAJOEejeQwsY XEqY1XSsDHc7+bPPvvFExJzEDY29TbB7e+QDMiSL1+d7c3+kF+C2Niykmc9PNMtM sPtifF/XA1NhTQfNVAV+NmrvWZQg4PUlLWGaJezcq0q0AvAb4FRxQcE/VQ4naV3T pnHA2H6a/5pfKmkIpSaT0nkzA+C/cPM+pngNhSgJmEBxm5+FQhmer536YmLynYGU 8O2k3vYK0BxX/bN2ISW7oYw3osbOn/a0eVHCNgtxcdJ9Dg4VX0HuXkUAKzMzWCs= =zF0r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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