
In order to clarify this once and for all: If I setup a Tor relay with 200 kBps, do I slow down the Tor network? What amount of bandwith is needed in order to not slow down the network?

On 1 Nov. 2016, at 15:58, <anemoi@tutanota.de> <anemoi@tutanota.de> wrote:
In order to clarify this once and for all: If I setup a Tor relay with 200 kBps, do I slow down the Tor network? What amount of bandwith is needed in order to not slow down the network?
In order to get the Fast flag, you need a relay capable of 2 megabytes per second. Most clients won't use you for anything if you don't have the Fast flag, so you'll have minimal impact on the network. That said, each extra relay adds to the directory download overhead. T -- Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP C855 6CED 5D90 A0C5 29F6 4D43 450C BA7F 968F 094B ricochet:ekmygaiu4rzgsk6n xmpp: teor at torproject dot org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Nov 2016, at 11:42 AM, teor wrote:
On 1 Nov. 2016, at 15:58, <anemoi@tutanota.de> <anemoi@tutanota.de> wrote:
In order to clarify this once and for all: If I setup a Tor relay with 200 kBps, do I slow down the Tor network? What amount of bandwith is needed in order to not slow down the network?
In order to get the Fast flag, you need a relay capable of 2 megabytes per second. Most clients won't use you for anything if you don't have the Fast flag, so you'll have minimal impact on the network.
Do you mean 2 megabit/s? Last time I checked 2 Mbps was the minimum for Fast, i.e. 256 KBps. Note the differing units. I ran a 2 Mbit relay from home for a while and it got the Fast flag.

On 1 Nov. 2016, at 23:12, Louie Cardone-Noott <lcn@fastmail.net> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016, at 11:42 AM, teor wrote:
On 1 Nov. 2016, at 15:58, <anemoi@tutanota.de> <anemoi@tutanota.de> wrote:
In order to clarify this once and for all: If I setup a Tor relay with 200 kBps, do I slow down the Tor network? What amount of bandwith is needed in order to not slow down the network?
In order to get the Fast flag, you need a relay capable of 2 megabytes per second. Most clients won't use you for anything if you don't have the Fast flag, so you'll have minimal impact on the network.
Do you mean 2 megabit/s?
Last time I checked 2 Mbps was the minimum for Fast, i.e. 256 KBps. Note the differing units. I ran a 2 Mbit relay from home for a while and it got the Fast flag.
Oops, you're right, Fast is 100 KByte/second, Guard is 2 MByte/second. To get the fast flag, you also need to be in the top 7/8ths fastest relays. T -- Tim Wilson-Brown (teor) teor2345 at gmail dot com PGP C855 6CED 5D90 A0C5 29F6 4D43 450C BA7F 968F 094B ricochet:ekmygaiu4rzgsk6n xmpp: teor at torproject dot org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, Tor-relay-debian says 250KBps (bytes): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en But Tor-doc-relay says 2Mbps (bits): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en On 10/31/2016 11:58 PM, anemoi@tutanota.de wrote:
In order to clarify this once and for all: If I setup a Tor relay with 200 kBps, do I slow down the Tor network? What amount of bandwith is needed in order to not slow down the network?
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On 2016-11-01 at 13:29, SuperSluether wrote:
Well, Tor-relay-debian says 250KBps (bytes): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en
But Tor-doc-relay says 2Mbps (bits): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en
Which is exactly the same, so it's ok :) Best, Michael

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Michael Armbruster <tor@armbrust.me> wrote:
Well, Tor-relay-debian says 250KBps (bytes): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en
But Tor-doc-relay says 2Mbps (bits): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en
Which is exactly the same, so it's ok :)
No it's not ok because 'K' is not a valid prefix. And 'b' (bits) is the proper context that network hardware and network applications use, not 'B' bytes. Whoever wrote / maintains that doc needs to fix it. And all posters in this thread posted invalid stuff too. No wonder users and operators are perpetually confused about what rates are, which rates have significance in tor, and how to configure them. See prior posts links wikipedia for using units / prefixes.

2016-11-03 3:35 GMT+01:00 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>:
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Michael Armbruster <tor@armbrust.me> wrote:
Well, Tor-relay-debian says 250KBps (bytes): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en
But Tor-doc-relay says 2Mbps (bits): https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en
Which is exactly the same, so it's ok :)
No it's not ok because 'K' is not a valid prefix.
Welcome to geek culture!
And 'b' (bits) is the proper context that network hardware and network applications use, not 'B' bytes.
Welcome to Linux culture!
Whoever wrote / maintains that doc needs to fix it. And all posters in this thread posted invalid stuff too.
CCNP here, you are technically correct, good luck fighting with both cultures.
No wonder users and operators are perpetually confused about what rates are, which rates have significance in tor, and how to configure them.
See prior posts links wikipedia for using units / prefixes.
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