Hi, Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this year. https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2015... https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2012... Looking at the graphs showing the total relay bandwidth of the network it seems like the advertised bandwidth has increased with about 25 Mbps (+23%). https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html?graph=bandwidth&start=2015-01-... https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html?graph=bandwidth&start=2012-01-... Seems a bit contradictory at first sight. A guess would be that a lower number of fast relays have replaced a higher number of slow ones but I haven't looked into it more. Anyone who's looked into this? And can back up their theory with some numbers. Thanks, Linus
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 10:08am, "Linus Nordberg" <linus@nordberg.se> said:
Hi,
Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this year.
https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2015... https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2012...
My uninformed guess would be that the higher minimum bandwidth requirements in v0.2.6.x forced out the marginal relays.
"Steve Snyder" <swsnyder@snydernet.net> wrote Sun, 3 May 2015 10:40:59 -0400 (EDT): | My uninformed guess would be that the higher minimum bandwidth requirements in v0.2.6.x forced out the marginal relays. Interesting. I'll see if I can find out when a majority of directory authorities upgraded to 0.2.6.x.
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Looking at the graphs showing the number of relays in the network it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this year.
https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2015...
https://metrics.torproject.org/networksize.html?graph=networksize&start=2012...
Looking at the graphs showing the total relay bandwidth of the network it seems like the advertised bandwidth has increased with about 25 Mbps (+23%).
I doubt that 25 Mpbs is 23% of the tor network capacity, I guess it should say GBit/s.
https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html?graph=bandwidth&start=2015-01-...
https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html?graph=bandwidth&start=2012-01-...
Seems a bit contradictory at first sight. A guess would be that a lower number of fast relays have replaced a higher number of slow ones but I haven't looked into it more.
Anyone who's looked into this? And can back up their theory with some numbers.
Unfortunately I've got no historic onionoo details data that goes back to 2014 to compare with current data, but if anyone has, feel free to upload it somewhere. You probably also know about the 0.2.3.x relays: https://metrics.torproject.org/versions.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVRnG/AAoJEFv7XvVCELh0qxEP/3YBkuG3UzoxFBoRSmMa/+9n 3zXgcegpdnJ22mR3lD+ocbXNdt8ne4hwk1KUiXaJJuxIQ/rwbh4sScgSbLjrMIts VjigxSR4yy2jeOkSARFIuomaY8jV7nOgHYP5uxFil/MPa/yjWfYinESKbxZL7PAQ 8wKi3AbxMaidxDfcBnQOBiGUVpchs3ZB1STQ7Kk4/hiNLeiSs7sCVKSAZ3i6i8aA 3TrMFgM3bRnOJ7dZDfkfG30gbiD4kvWhLtyDHMz03iwnbDCNkKkzilqljTlc9WYq hTHrJTY7YDKHMXPIWyy4I3AmH84neAFwtM5iAPAAANRAvBK/kuO6qjTf+oYj9ndh fATkauypkwsPcQrJH3M8IJLERmHrQ46CK5+S7gsDwrMWEZF5dx1byLGGoDvboPss 9mIx/dI1uCLI3vo3LoBF3LF9EnnHcwK9KgjcqgZN2jaSUbTrk4fFSJn9gpusTdXK UCTjxzw2bKqulSCZs8QjNkgIGEiAw7ZbNf2bmt0yoQ2Tt6iSPvkMqVSuNtMzLsjT WRlq63fXZx/aAS9RbrUSzJ7kOeFKlp+CkZHbltiOtP+62Wtg5cwBeLpq3MuylH3k frmPJ2zew4Xv0TAuhBPHDM+gn38ypmd4fqjeNaBJPQHZ4qG+fAueGEhKTW+c8ZNY fT82Id9BBm6JE4OCAv9c =Jf3H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
it seems like we've lost about 500 (-7%) relays since the beginning of this year.
the Tor network recently lost a large amount of relays (~75 or more) due to BadExit attacks. this may account for a large sum of the disappearing nodes (~20%), but it doesn't account for nearly all of them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVRogzAAoJEHK1ROBEFxGyr6IQAJWPmWo8XDygb2phEw9QoosT bLMdLgHQtKS+MaZVLnDqMQw1kqdUiw8Z/GW34mYUmJJ1AF3muJXa64Gw6y1ykZg7 TWIUw+uXOUaQwPLe069wgguC2pB51w/B88G5jq8EMQYti6gSPWgk9nghav9G0Nwa RE77JSboSQbCwQdmCIlCjG+topYqoMGWhp3Dq/dVizesC3tRit97E3OjyTQ5wEEx FanyF6Rv5fd3/Ds/8rzs+YbQmxckWB3+RzTOxa013GrhigF22A0xeaNYFc2kTgC/ w5Dw9Ts8pfUd/rsJd2RxgjP2z8QG1g1DFLcVBiLTb0LsGa8VbtPMoyISkrSvdgOF mDyZXhsdnDD3VCuVjYIBMKyuDKass04xAefYO5aDqGCPYukrX1nZXs/ohUpNAwEh eWsGq6b6iSglQfqGKxdVWcrEdnl/gUQxbkXBFPfBfCqxtKqCtGXv3VByuxcuWgXr bl2jIE8v2FWNCWmE/YfYnRcTjr98ACh1JPDOMCabDedk1oFYSvB4W4CdclXpnaop Q/pISFi+xvvqjfzzH0rmCft4VdJjgj4+y6h/0cVgJK1TycMuU3dQYHuubRJT8JR3 OUalYoe+28k75LlC1cm9WQHeUd624AAUZ9oT0oSN1iApCG9HzntaZsTDbumawwse PBRYaoa4/b7DAaOYHp/W =u6RR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote Sun, 03 May 2015 19:06:39 +0000: | > Looking at the graphs showing the total relay bandwidth of the | > network it seems like the advertised bandwidth has increased with | > about 25 Mbps (+23%). | | I doubt that 25 Mpbs is 23% of the tor network capacity, I guess it | should say GBit/s. Indeed. | You probably also know about the 0.2.3.x relays: | https://metrics.torproject.org/versions.html I didn't. Thanks.
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