blazingvpn tor relays: please specify 'MyFamily' in your torrc
Hi blazingvpn tor relay operator, thanks for adding 4 more tor relays to the network! Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu +------------+-----------------+----------------+ | first_seen | IP | eMyFamilyCount | +------------+-----------------+----------------+ | 2016-12-17 | 163.172.190.249 | NULL | | 2016-12-31 | 108.61.128.176 | NULL | | 2016-12-31 | 51.15.47.106 | NULL | | 2016-12-31 | 51.15.58.152 | NULL | | 2017-01-06 | 185.163.45.249 | NULL | +------------+-----------------+----------------+
Hi nusenu, thank you for your daily work about "MyFamily". Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat... Would you judge torworld.org, which is on the "/potentially_dangerous_relaygroups" now for a long time to be a commercial service? Regards Paul
pa011:
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat...
https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
Relays are aggregated based on effective families.
So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo. Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
Am 10.01.2017 um 21:01 schrieb nusenu:
pa011:
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat...
https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
Relays are aggregated based on effective families.
So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo.
Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
Better would be a warning: Family currently worth nothing !! torservers.net: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/ABF7FBF389C9A747938B639B20E80620B460B2... -> no one of the given family is blue, so yes the family seems wrong zwiebeln online de: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0E2773CF5609FD7FA52837E53DF4B0D47F0D15... -> all the family members are blue, counting 27 , which is slightly more than your 2 lines added together this morning torworld.org : https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... -> currently 12 big Exits - no Family given at all at https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/index.php
On 01/10/2017 10:16 PM, pa011 wrote:
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat... So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo.
This is correct; our MyFamily settings are very out of sync. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat...
https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
Relays are aggregated based on effective families.
So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo.
Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
done (renamed from operators to families)
Hi 7proxies tor relay operator, thanks for adding your new tor relays to the network! Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu +------------+---------------+----------------+ | first_seen | IP | eMyFamilyCount | +------------+---------------+----------------+ | 2017-01-03 | 217.12.199.87 | 2.0000 | | 2017-01-05 | 5.2.75.203 | NULL | | 2017-01-05 | 149.56.1.204 | NULL | | 2017-01-05 | 185.106.103.5 | 2.0000 | +------------+---------------+----------------+ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dang...
Hi e AT torworld.org, thanks for running 5 relays! Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | contact | nickname | exit | eMyFamilyCount | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | e @ torworld.org | Basil | 1 | NULL | | e AT TorWorld.org | LOLHillary | 1 | NULL | | e [AT] torworld.org | Cajun | 0 | NULL | | e [at] torworld.org | Gigi | 1 | NULL | | e@torworld.org | SurfingAOL | 1 | NULL | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dang...
I recently got this answer from "torworld.org" -see below. They told me that a relay https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... with contact "e @torworld" is not operated by them. As nusenu showed at the end of the message some days ago somebody with a similar contact address was running 5 at the time, currently 6 relays. Some questions I like to ask: Why is somebody running relays with the contact domain of another party? Is there a way that mails ever reach e@torworld.org? Why not giving a correct MyFamily set-up when running 6 relays? 5 of 6 relays have a Guard status - let me remind on a recent discussion "How can we trust the guards?" ? Regards Paul -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Return-Path: <abuse@torworld.org> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org To: pa011 <pa011@web.de> From: Abuse TorWorld <abuse@torworld.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:54:58 -0800 Hello, This Exit node is not affiliated with us. "https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883..." All the nodes we'll operate will have this "abuse [AT] torworld.org - BTC 17iwdtpmgHdPt15twdT2sUcdeKgz9PTNMQ" In their contact info area, and when the website is back up. You can check to see a list of current Tor nodes we operate etc. As for the MyFamily for the Guard/Middle nodes; Lunar operates/runs those. So you'll have to get in contact with him if you want to talk about his MyFamily setup. Take care, On 1/10/2017 1:16 PM, pa011 wrote:
Am 10.01.2017 um 21:01 schrieb nusenu:
pa011:
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat...
https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
Relays are aggregated based on effective families. So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo.
Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
Better would be a warning: Family currently worth nothing !!
torservers.net: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/ABF7FBF389C9A747938B639B20E80620B460B2... -> no one of the given family is blue, so yes the family seems wrong
zwiebeln online de: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0E2773CF5609FD7FA52837E53DF4B0D47F0D15... -> all the family members are blue, counting 27 , which is slightly more than your 2 lines added together this morning
torworld.org : https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... -> currently 12 big Exits - no Family given at all at https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/index.php
Am 15.01.2017 um 01:02 schrieb nusenu:
Hi e AT torworld.org,
thanks for running 5 relays!
Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator.
If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know.
thanks, nusenu https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor
+---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | contact | nickname | exit | eMyFamilyCount | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | e @ torworld.org | Basil | 1 | NULL | | e AT TorWorld.org | LOLHillary | 1 | NULL | | e [AT] torworld.org | Cajun | 0 | NULL | | e [at] torworld.org | Gigi | 1 | NULL | | e@torworld.org | SurfingAOL | 1 | NULL | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+
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Dear bad-relays, Would you consider banning the following Exits / Guards? They have an incorrect ContactInfo, which uses the domain of a legitimate relay operator, torworld.org. This may be an attempt to evade automated sybil analysis, as may their variant ContactInfos. They also don't have MyFamily set, which allows them to collect Guard and Exit traffic from the same clients. 38FCC78FA24743674B902018708656144B1F2C9C Endymion e @ torworld.org - 187SRPJHhgJe1ZtdN68wA7Fah8zyWFooii 7088D485934E8A403B81531F8C90BDC75FA43C98 Basil e @ torworld.org 539FE1D1E6118F4807AB24EDE6E8055BE34F4F5E SurfingAOL e@torworld.org 3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A6788321 Gigi e [at] torworld.org 1E1FF55109A19DE6442F80FF7901D7FBB6E241FA LOLHillary e AT TorWorld.org 0966A24977A0B0DB62546C6F18F9578D97FE86F0 Cajun e [AT] torworld.org Details below:
On 19 Jan 2017, at 08:44, Paul <pa011@web.de> wrote:
I recently got this answer from "torworld.org" -see below.
They told me that a relay https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... with contact "e @torworld" is not operated by them.
As nusenu showed at the end of the message some days ago somebody with a similar contact address was running 5 at the time, currently 6 relays.
Some questions I like to ask:
Why is somebody running relays with the contact domain of another party?
Is there a way that mails ever reach e@torworld.org?
Why not giving a correct MyFamily set-up when running 6 relays?
5 of 6 relays have a Guard status - let me remind on a recent discussion "How can we trust the guards?" ?
Regards Paul
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Return-Path: <abuse@torworld.org>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org To: pa011 <pa011@web.de> From: Abuse TorWorld <abuse@torworld.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:54:58 -0800
Hello,
This Exit node is not affiliated with us.
"https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883..."
All the nodes we'll operate will have this "abuse [AT] torworld.org - BTC 17iwdtpmgHdPt15twdT2sUcdeKgz9PTNMQ" In their contact info area, and when the website is back up. You can check to see a list of current Tor nodes we operate etc.
As for the MyFamily for the Guard/Middle nodes; Lunar operates/runs those. So you'll have to get in contact with him if you want to talk about his MyFamily setup.
Take care,
On 1/10/2017 1:16 PM, pa011 wrote:
Am 10.01.2017 um 21:01 schrieb nusenu:
pa011:
Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operat...
https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes:
Relays are aggregated based on effective families. So they are not setting MyFamily properly or someone else is using their contactInfo.
Maybe I should rename the files to main_..._families.txt
Better would be a warning: Family currently worth nothing !!
torservers.net: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/ABF7FBF389C9A747938B639B20E80620B460B2... -> no one of the given family is blue, so yes the family seems wrong
zwiebeln online de: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/0E2773CF5609FD7FA52837E53DF4B0D47F0D15... -> all the family members are blue, counting 27 , which is slightly more than your 2 lines added together this morning
torworld.org : https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... -> currently 12 big Exits - no Family given at all at https://torstatus.rueckgr.at/index.php
Am 15.01.2017 um 01:02 schrieb nusenu:
Hi e AT torworld.org,
thanks for running 5 relays!
Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator.
If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know.
thanks, nusenu https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor
+---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | contact | nickname | exit | eMyFamilyCount | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | e @ torworld.org | Basil | 1 | NULL | | e AT TorWorld.org | LOLHillary | 1 | NULL | | e [AT] torworld.org | Cajun | 0 | NULL | | e [at] torworld.org | Gigi | 1 | NULL | | e@torworld.org | SurfingAOL | 1 | NULL | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+
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teor:
Dear bad-relays,
Would you consider banning the following Exits / Guards?
I think this is a misunderstanding. tldr; e@torworld.org != abuse@torworld.org e@torworld.org fixed their MyFamily setting today, thanks! +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | contact | nickname | exit | eMyFamilyCount | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ | e @ torworld.org | Basil | 1 | 10.0000 | | e @ torworld.org - | Endymion | 0 | 10.0000 | | e at torworld.org | Thrasher | 0 | 10.0000 | | e AT TorWorld.org - | LOLHillary | 1 | 10.0000 | | e [AT] torworld.org | Cajun | 0 | 10.0000 | | e [at] torworld.org | Gigi | 1 | 10.0000 | | e@torworld.org | SurfingAOL | 1 | 10.0000 | +---------------------+------------+------+----------------+ 7 rows
tldr; e@torworld.org != abuse@torworld.org
I have to add: ...according to security@torworld.org (security@ = abuse@). In their own words: Security TorWorld wrote (2016-12-12):
Hi,
When nodes are run under/by TorWorld we'll have one cluster MyFamily. However; I know a few of our members run private nodes with their "torworld.org" email address. So most likely you'll see some of our members running their own systems.
Thanks for showing us the updated list.
Paul:
I recently got this answer from "torworld.org" -see below.
They told me that a relay https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D512D9ACD9A6056ED6EA20C46406FA5A67883... with contact "e @torworld" is not operated by them.
I think you misinterpreted this. Relays with contact "e @ torworld.org" are not run by "abuse @ torworld.org" and this is reflected in the contact.
Why is somebody running relays with the contact domain of another party?
They give away email addresses under their domain to 3th parties - not so unusual.
Is there a way that mails ever reach e@torworld.org?
I never got an error when writing emails to e@torworld.org
Hi BrassHornCommunications, looks like you added a new relay to your fleet of relays five days ago, please do not forget to update your MyFamily. If you plan to grow further it can be handy to preemptively create relay keys so you don't have to touch all relays every time you add a new one. Also let us know if BrassHornRelay16 is not yours. regards, nusenu https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dang... +------------+------------------+----------------+ | first_seen | nickname | eMyFamilyCount | +------------+------------------+----------------+ | 2014-06-05 | BrassHornRelay01 | 13.0000 | | 2014-07-01 | BrassHornRelay04 | 13.0000 | | 2014-07-15 | BrassHornRelay05 | 13.0000 | | 2014-09-02 | BrassHornRelay08 | 13.0000 | | 2015-04-09 | BrassHornRelay07 | 13.0000 | | 2015-05-27 | BrassHornRelay11 | 13.0000 | | 2015-06-26 | BrassHornExit03 | 13.0000 | | 2015-06-26 | BrassHornExit02 | 13.0000 | | 2015-08-21 | BrassHornExit04 | 13.0000 | | 2015-09-02 | BrassHornRelay09 | 13.0000 | | 2015-10-02 | BrassHornRelay02 | 13.0000 | | 2016-04-09 | BrassHornRelay12 | 13.0000 | | 2016-06-15 | BrassHornRelay13 | 13.0000 | | 2017-01-14 | BrassHornRelay16 | NULL | +------------+------------------+----------------+
On 19/01/17 18:12, nusenu wrote:
If you plan to grow further it can be handy to preemptively create relay keys so you don't have to touch all relays every time you add a new one.
Is there a guide on how this can be done? - for the benefit of other relay operators who might want to do something like this. Many thanks, Alex
Alex Haydock:
If you plan to grow further it can be handy to preemptively create relay keys so you don't have to touch all relays every time you add a new one.
Is there a guide on how this can be done? - for the benefit of other relay operators who might want to do something like this.
The steps to generate relay keys can be found here: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2017-January/011601.html
*should* be sorted now
thanks for fixing it! +------------------+----------------+ | nickname | eMyFamilyCount | +------------------+----------------+ | BrassHornRelay06 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornExit03 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay16 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay14 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornExit02 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay09 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay02 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornExit04 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay05 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay11 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay10 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay13 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay01 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay08 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay07 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay12 | 17.0000 | | BrassHornRelay04 | 17.0000 | +------------------+----------------+ 17 rows
Hi netbackup.gs, thanks for adding OpenBSD tor relays to the network! Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu PS: something went wrong with your ContactInfo string on your new relays. https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor +-------------+-----------------------------------+----------------+ | nickname | contact | eMyFamilyCount | +-------------+-----------------------------------+----------------+ | OpenBSD0rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD1rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD2rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD2rel | netbackup(dot)gs(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD3rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD4rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD5rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD6rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD7rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | | OpenBSD8rel | (dot)(at)gmail(dot)com | NULL | +-------------+-----------------------------------+----------------+
Hi Jannis, thanks for running your massive tor relays and allowing exiting again! https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/contact:jannisde85 Please do not forget to set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell clients your relays belong to a single operator, otherwise they might use your relays in multiple positions within a circuit, which is rather bad for their anonymity. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dang... +---------------------+----------+----------------+ | first_seen | nickname | eMyFamilyCount | +---------------------+----------+----------------+ | 2016-03-28 19:00:00 | arnall | NULL | | 2016-04-08 16:00:00 | behrmann | NULL | | 2016-05-03 19:00:00 | colosimo | NULL | | 2016-09-07 18:00:00 | ifigenia | NULL | +---------------------+----------+----------------+
Hi Fusl, thanks for running so many tor relays since 2015. https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/contact:t@or-no.de Please set the MyFamily parameter in your torrc configuration to tell tor clients your relays belong to a single operator, otherwise they might use your relays in multiple positions within a circuit, which is rather bad for their anonymity. If you need help with the MyFamily option let us know. thanks, nusenu https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dang...
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