-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? 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I run an exit node off of a residential Verizon connection and I haven't seen a single threat, legal or otherwise so far, I dunno why you're having so much trouble. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:02 PM, That Guy <grep@gmx.us> wrote:
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Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
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On 13-08-29 09:02 PM, That Guy wrote:
Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
When things go smoothly there isnt much reason to post to the tor-relays list, so i would expect lots of trouble reports and requests for help here. Stick around for awhile and i think you will see that a lot of problems are teething pains - people learning how to configure their relay for their particular hosting situation which includes a myriad of factors. It doesnt seem possible to get a complete picture by reading a single document (less than booklet-sized) before starting a relay.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 That Guy:
nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it
This is rarely due to anything other than bandwidth issues, although some backwards ISPs do not like *any* sort of "P2P" traffic. I chalk this up to ignorance. Give your money to a better provider if this happens. Best, - -Gordon M. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJSIAFBAAoJED/jpRoe7/ujf8UH/jJHRfa0xB7iTF4VZ91iXmml jpdIBh2byNJZ0mWaqZP91WPCgM615i4e+eLgMWp5fb+lYUQnQ8A8LTY3SNihwwKx 2cSS/7JRnOYxQSrfiEXdRv+BhMBOxrUPtCGZCbeDjQAk0OQwhb0cMmqfgamLDx/z 2KobsLBEjc82J+YQpdyH9iHPYUkbc9bX/zMbfZx9pBVuzV/G8Awkuuc9Tw9jvgLa /W3UiPezK3p4C5IR3g3+f9AeKxkrPyB7LGdFPpxSiwbKJYI+uf1qYyiVQ/JaVO8J R3Gqa2i9Dr4QHMn3pMrW7kZCwKScSUBA6z0PTWZyWZF+olR5nlNi2jKlyw74ghw= =/ptr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:19:48 -0700 Gordon Morehouse <gordon@morehouse.me> wrote:
That Guy:
nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it
This is rarely due to anything other than bandwidth issues, although some backwards ISPs do not like *any* sort of "P2P" traffic. I chalk this up to ignorance. Give your money to a better provider if this happens.
With VPS providers, there is also the issue of CPU usage. If the host machine does not have the AES-NI acceleration or does not expose it to the VPS guest (and this is extremely common), a relay even at some 50Mbit in + 50Mbit out will already consume 100% of a modern 2.3 GHz CPU core, 24x7. Many or even most VPS providers will not be okay with that. - -- With respect, Roman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIhq44ACgkQTLKSvz+PZwhVrQCfREGY5ckpg+EYZUgXLVb5b4dQ JQgAn2ly2Jh6U+QgL+cXIw9r3zXLT5xJ =5aTE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:02 PM, That Guy wrote:
Signed PGP part Am not new to Tor bur am to the mailing list and running a relay and I have noticed and endless amount of legal concerns and not just on exit nodes. People running non-exit relays getting booted out by their VPS/ISP provider. I am just curious if it is getting worse or has it been this way for a while. I want to help/encourage others to run relays but a recent submission about the guy who got his friend to run a relay and (not-so)Freenode shut down his VPS. Is this only going to get worse? What happens then?
I'm not sure if it's much of a data point, but I've been running a relay node for a month on a residential cable modem (Charter in the U.S.) with no issues (yet). I throttle it to ~2Mb/s though (my upload is only 3Mb/s). -D
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