Discounts/Free Trials on BSD instances to promote BSD relays?
Howdy, So, anyway, I was previously more active, but I decided on a midlife career change and was on a training path to become a Physician Assistant. Then I was hit by a drunk driver. Now I had to drop out of the program for the next year at least, if at all, so I'm going back to working IT. That's the sob story. I like BSD, primarily FreeBSD (please flame me about how my relays aren't secure later :P) and like promoting the use of it. I have excess capacity on dedicated servers that I personally pay for that are used to host portions of a very popular Wiki based Satire/Dark Humor website. Some of that capacity is already going to Tor. On the servers that have address space SWIPed to me, I would like to resell that capacity specifically to host BSD based Tor relays, exits, bridges, and hidden services. Right now I'm working on infrastructure and a website and trying to somewhat automate things. The question I would like to ask, and honestly, I'm not trying to generate customers, I honestly believe that if a Linux user actually logs into a BSD box for the first time and sees the beauty and grace that the differences between BSD and Linux are that they would want to switch their own personal relay. I'm a firm believer of this. I know there's some hardcore Linux fans out there and that's fine, there's a legion of BSD fans too :). To the point - would it be fair to network stability to offer a week long free trial to run a tor instance, well, that is if that's what the user hopefully runs? Would such a model even have an affect on increasing the number of BSD instances we have on Tor presently? And again, per a suggestion in a previous email chain that I was involved in, I setup my ARIN and RIPE ids, and my providers have SWIPed the address spaces to me so any and all abuse complaints will be coming to me for the address spaces for now on. Thanks, Conrad
Conrad wrote
To the point - would it be fair to network stability to offer a week long free trial to run a tor instance, well, that is if that's what the user hopefully runs? Would such a model even have an affect on increasing the number of BSD instances we have on Tor presently?
Conrad, For diversity I would participate and learn to use BSD to run a relay. Robert
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:42 PM, I <beatthebastards@inbox.com> wrote:
Conrad,
For diversity I would participate and learn to use BSD to run a relay.
Robert
Robert, You (and anyone else who's interested) is more than welcome to send me an email with an RSA public key, along with your choice of OS (FreeBSD or OpenBSD) and a RSA Public Key for your authorized_keys file, and once I'm ready to start spinning up instances, which should be hopefully this weekend if not by Monday, I will email everyone and let you know what your IP/hostname is. If you have a preferred hostname.greyponyit.com or hostname.yourdomainname.com please let me know that as well. I should have that part somewhat automated at some point as well, just trying to get things off the ground. Thanks, Conrad -- Conrad Rockenhaus Get started with GreyPony Anonymization Today! https://www.greyponyit.com
I am a little sick of versions and flavors, but I would like to run a bridge relay. But I have had no luck running any kind with the Linux version I have: Slackware. The company seems to have gone bust since they have had no updates since the one I currently have. The SlackBuilds Repository has instructions I followed but that made Tor Crash. I would like a list of files, where they need to be, and associated permissions for a functional relay. I have had no success with ansible or go. Can you help? On 7/19/2018 at 8:56 AM, "Conrad Rockenhaus" wrote:On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:42 PM, I wrote:
Conrad,
For diversity I would participate and learn to use BSD to run a relay.
Robert
Robert, You (and anyone else who's interested) is more than welcome to send me an email with an RSA public key, along with your choice of OS (FreeBSD or OpenBSD) and a RSA Public Key for your authorized_keys file, and once I'm ready to start spinning up instances, which should be hopefully this weekend if not by Monday, I will email everyone and let you know what your IP/hostname is. If you have a preferred hostname.greyponyit.com or hostname.yourdomainname.com please let me know that as well. I should have that part somewhat automated at some point as well, just trying to get things off the ground. Thanks, Conrad -- Conrad Rockenhaus Get started with GreyPony Anonymization Today! https://www.greyponyit.com _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Tony Peck:
I have had no success with ansible or go. Can you help?
https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor might be useful if you want to use ansible for relay management -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
Tony Peck:
I have had no success with ansible or go. Can you help?
https://github.com/nusenu/ansible-relayor might be useful if you want to use ansible for relay management
Using relayor and Ansible as a more-familiar layer over a new OS was what gave me the ability to wade into operating a FreeBSD relay and it has been a really rewarding and enjoyable experience. I’m here to help anyone doing this 🤓
On 19 Jul 2018, at 11:34, Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
To the point - would it be fair to network stability to offer a week long free trial to run a tor instance, well, that is if that's what the user hopefully runs? Would such a model even have an affect on increasing the number of BSD instances we have on Tor presently?
Exits typically see some traffic after a week. It can take guards and middles a few months to get decent traffic. So maybe a month-long trial would be more rewarding? T
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:10 PM, teor <teor@riseup.net> wrote:
On 19 Jul 2018, at 11:34, Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
To the point - would it be fair to network stability to offer a week long free trial to run a tor instance, well, that is if that's what the user hopefully runs? Would such a model even have an affect on increasing the number of BSD instances we have on Tor presently?
Exits typically see some traffic after a week.
It can take guards and middles a few months to get decent traffic.
So maybe a month-long trial would be more rewarding?
This sounds pretty reasonable. Right now I'm working on trying to automate as much as I can with bsd-cloudinit and such as well as getting the Tax Exempt status paperwork in order, as I'm trying to pursue this as an opportunity as another avenue about the educational and security benefits of using BSD systems. I don't expect to turn a profit...my hope is to break even sometime though. Anyway, I'm not sure what the level of interest would be, so I figure I would be very conservative and configure the free trial instances with the following parameters for now: 1 vCPU 2 GB RAM 30 GB Disk 10 mbit/Unlimited Traffic I'll adjust the numbers as I assess demand, I just don't want a potential high level of interest and have to turn people away. Do these numbers sound reasonable? I have room to work within. I did a horrible job of creating a web page. I had to use something to help me as my web page skills stopped at...html, maybe some JS... people expect pretty these days and I even made the machine that generates pretty pages generate ugly. That's impressive. Thanks, Conrad -- Conrad Rockenhaus Get started with GreyPony Anonymization Today! https://www.greyponyit.com
Conrad Rockenhaus:
1 vCPU 2 GB RAM 30 GB Disk 10 mbit/Unlimited Traffic
I'll adjust the numbers as I assess demand, I just don't want a potential high level of interest and have to turn people away. Do these numbers sound reasonable?
maybe increase the bw to ~20 mbps to make guards possible -- https://twitter.com/nusenu_ https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:10 PM, nusenu <nusenu-lists@riseup.net> wrote:
Conrad Rockenhaus:
1 vCPU 2 GB RAM 30 GB Disk 10 mbit/Unlimited Traffic
I'll adjust the numbers as I assess demand, I just don't want a potential high level of interest and have to turn people away. Do these numbers sound reasonable?
maybe increase the bw to ~20 mbps to make guards possible
Ok, that sounds reasonable. Please note, this is for a free trial/basic XenU VM. I will make other flavors available. I will also make sure that these are burstable to a certain extent, I don't want to oversubscribe or slow things down. Thanks, Conrad -- Conrad Rockenhaus Get started with GreyPony Anonymization Today! https://www.greyponyit.com
Completely unrelated, but I just realized- why the heck am I using XenServer or even Xen when I can just use bhyve? Shoot, I just solved most of my automation issues right there. I’m not running jails only because I’m promising a complete 100% your own VM and because I have people asking for OpenBSD. Of course, I could always offer a jail environment as the freebie for a month package from now on, except for those I’ve already promised OpenBSD to. What are thr thoughts on just using HardenedBSD Jails as the free/try BSD and tor out environment? Thanks, Rock On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:20 AM Conrad Rockenhaus <conrad@rockenhaus.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:10 PM, nusenu <nusenu-lists@riseup.net> wrote:
Conrad Rockenhaus:
1 vCPU 2 GB RAM 30 GB Disk 10 mbit/Unlimited Traffic
I'll adjust the numbers as I assess demand, I just don't want a potential high level of interest and have to turn people away. Do these numbers sound reasonable?
maybe increase the bw to ~20 mbps to make guards possible
Ok, that sounds reasonable. Please note, this is for a free trial/basic XenU VM. I will make other flavors available.
I will also make sure that these are burstable to a certain extent, I don't want to oversubscribe or slow things down.
Thanks,
Conrad
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