Are all future versions of Tor Browser Bundle going to have Vidalia permanently stripped? I'm running a stable relay on Linux with the TBB (and thus, Vidalia) instead of installing the Tor packages, and i quite like it this way. I don't remember what exactly went wrong, but some months ago i tried to get a relay running by installing and configuring it with the terminal and failed miserably, even though i was following instructions to the letter. I could try again but i'm a huge fan of the "if it's not broken, don't touch it" approach, and my relay works fantastic right now.
If Vidalia is going to be permanently dropped at some point, is there any other way to continue running a relay than the terminal? I had a look at TBBv3 and didn't find a way to enable relaying.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:54:34PM +0300, J.C. wrote:
Are all future versions of Tor Browser Bundle going to have Vidalia permanently stripped?
Very likely yes. And replaced with Tor Launcher.
I'm running a stable relay on Linux with the TBB (and thus, Vidalia) instead of installing the Tor packages, and i quite like it this way.
Which Linux? If Debian or Ubuntu, you'll probably be much happier using the deb.
The deb starts at boot, and runs the Tor process as a separate user. Another huge feature of the deb is that it raises your "ulimit -n" (the number of sockets a process is allowed to have open) automatically. Unless it's tiny, a relay run from inside Vidalia is going to run into that problem pretty quickly.
I could try again but i'm a huge fan of the "if it's not broken, don't touch it" approach, and my relay works fantastic right now.
Which one is it? We can check its statistics to see if that's actually true. :)
Thanks, --Roger
Running Xubuntu 13.04. Do you mean a .deb package for relay operators is/will be available somewhere? I haven't come across one, but then i haven't been looking since the last time i had trouble with Tor. My relay is "namelesshero".
On 23.09.2013 12:58, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:54:34PM +0300, J.C. wrote:
Are all future versions of Tor Browser Bundle going to have Vidalia permanently stripped?
Very likely yes. And replaced with Tor Launcher.
I'm running a stable relay on Linux with the TBB (and thus, Vidalia) instead of installing the Tor packages, and i quite like it this way.
Which Linux? If Debian or Ubuntu, you'll probably be much happier using the deb.
The deb starts at boot, and runs the Tor process as a separate user. Another huge feature of the deb is that it raises your "ulimit -n" (the number of sockets a process is allowed to have open) automatically. Unless it's tiny, a relay run from inside Vidalia is going to run into that problem pretty quickly.
I could try again but i'm a huge fan of the "if it's not broken, don't touch it" approach, and my relay works fantastic right now.
Which one is it? We can check its statistics to see if that's actually true. :)
Thanks, --Roger
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 01:15:33PM +0300, J.C. wrote:
Running Xubuntu 13.04. Do you mean a .deb package for relay operators is/will be available somewhere? I haven't come across one, but then i haven't been looking since the last time i had trouble with Tor.
https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian
It's the same Tor deb, but you change a few lines in the /etc/tor/torrc file and now you're a relay.
My relay is "namelesshero".
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/02BCCE638C403A1014EDB07A8966EA011C019C...
It actually looks like it's doing ok for now. I wonder if your message log is spammed with warnings about raising your ulimit -n yet?
--Roger
So far I haven't seen any other error messages than something about a failed DNS server, which always corrects itself half a second or so afterwards, stating nameservers are back up. It's running on a 100/10 connection, pushing as much upstream as possible, maybe my bandwidth isn't sufficient to trigger that error?
Now that you mentioned torrc, i think one problem i encountered was that installing Tor didn't create a torrc file anywhere on my system, or it was a blank file. I copied a template torrc file contents from a TBB from that time but it didn't work, always reverting to a blank torrc. Anyway, that's probably best left for troubleshooting at a later time if it happens again. I'm still quite new to Linux and it's more than possible i screwed up somewhere.
Thanks for checking. :)
On 23.09.2013 13:20, Roger Dingledine wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 01:15:33PM +0300, J.C. wrote:
Running Xubuntu 13.04. Do you mean a .deb package for relay operators is/will be available somewhere? I haven't come across one, but then i haven't been looking since the last time i had trouble with Tor.
https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian
It's the same Tor deb, but you change a few lines in the /etc/tor/torrc file and now you're a relay.
My relay is "namelesshero".
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/02BCCE638C403A1014EDB07A8966EA011C019C...
It actually looks like it's doing ok for now. I wonder if your message log is spammed with warnings about raising your ulimit -n yet?
--Roger
tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 13:36 +0300, J.C. wrote:
So far I haven't seen any other error messages than something about a failed DNS server, which always corrects itself half a second or so afterwards, stating nameservers are back up. It's running on a 100/10 connection, pushing as much upstream as possible, maybe my bandwidth isn't sufficient to trigger that error?
Now that you mentioned torrc, i think one problem i encountered was that installing Tor didn't create a torrc file anywhere on my system, or it was a blank file. I copied a template torrc file contents from a TBB from that time but it didn't work, always reverting to a blank torrc. Anyway, that's probably best left for troubleshooting at a later time if it happens again. I'm still quite new to Linux and it's more than possible i screwed up somewhere.
Thanks for checking. :)
Hello JC,
Don't be shy of running tor, you can get support here. As for managing tor directly from conf files, it isn't so scary even if you are a newbie. If you'd followed the latest threads you would new that there is recommendation on upgrading to 0.2.4.x. So assuming you would want to do that:
https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en#ubuntu
After that, you should just need to edit /etc/tor/torrc and:
# service tor restart
The conf file is self-explained through comments, with verbose examples on how to do things with tor. Also, don't forget to give contact info on your node so people can contact you in case they see misbehavior on your machine.
Shout here if you run into trouble.
tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
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