Re: [tor-relays] Question: RAM requirement for an exit relay
Olaf is right Get a $ 5 per month VPS On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 08:28 AM, Olaf Grimm <jeep665@posteo.de> wrote:
Hello Amadeus!
When you talk about a RasPi, I assume you mean a home location.
Please read the recommendations. Never operate an Exit Relay at home!
It will be expensive if the wrong people knock on the door.
By the way, for an Exit Relay the bandwidth should already be 10MBit/s
or better.
Olaf
Am 15.12.20 um 01:44 schrieb Amadeus Ramazotti:
hey,
partly related to original question:
I'm planning to set up a new exit. My very first relay. I'm planning to use a small SoC with 2GB ram. Something running on ARM like a raspberry pi.
Is this feasible or even a good idea?
Regards
On 14 Dec 2020, at 15:10, torix@protonmail.com wrote:
I have several 1 G RAM exits running unbound without a problem. They never seem to hit swap, either. On FreeBSD:
last pid: 83973; load averages: 0.86, 0.71, 0.62 up 130+15:44:28 16:02:04
23 processes: 2 running, 21 sleeping
CPU: 43.1% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 5.5% interrupt, 48.6% idle
Mem: 101M Active, 734M Inact, 444M Wired, 151M Buf, 210M Free
Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free
Go for it,
\--Torix
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On Monday, December 14, 2020 1:11 PM, <lists@for-privacy.net> wrote:
On 14.12.2020 13:58, lists@for-privacy.net wrote:
grep VmPeak/proc/$PID/status = 181836 kB
A non exit has less:
grep VmPeak/proc/$PID/status = 57336 kB
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Although I haven't had a lengthy experience with running a TOR relay, I will definitely attest to the fact that even the cheapest $5 VPS with low specs and a good distro on board, you can easily operate a relay. As for operating one at home, don't operate an exit like Olaf said and you'll be okay. Just ensure your node meets the requirements set forth on this page. <https://community.torproject.org/relay/relays-requirements/> Regards, Thomas On 12/17/2020 5:36 AM, BRBfGWMz wrote:
Olaf is right
Get a $ 5 per month VPS
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 08:28 AM, Olaf Grimm <jeep665@posteo.de> wrote:
Hello Amadeus!
When you talk about a RasPi, I assume you mean a home location.
Please read the recommendations. Never operate an Exit Relay at home!
It will be expensive if the wrong people knock on the door.
By the way, for an Exit Relay the bandwidth should already be 10MBit/s
or better.
Olaf
Am 15.12.20 um 01:44 schrieb Amadeus Ramazotti:
hey,
partly related to original question:
I'm planning to set up a new exit. My very first relay. I'm planning to use a small SoC with 2GB ram. Something running on ARM like a raspberry pi.
Is this feasible or even a good idea?
Regards
On 14 Dec 2020, at 15:10, torix@protonmail.com wrote:
I have several 1 G RAM exits running unbound without a problem. They never seem to hit swap, either. On FreeBSD:
last pid: 83973; load averages: 0.86, 0.71, 0.62 up 130+15:44:28 16:02:04
23 processes: 2 running, 21 sleeping
CPU: 43.1% user, 0.0% nice, 2.7% system, 5.5% interrupt, 48.6% idle
Mem: 101M Active, 734M Inact, 444M Wired, 151M Buf, 210M Free
Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free
Go for it,
--Torix
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On Monday, December 14, 2020 1:11 PM, <lists@for-privacy.net> wrote:
On 14.12.2020 13:58, lists@for-privacy.net wrote:
grep VmPeak/proc/$PID/status = 181836 kB
A non exit has less:
grep VmPeak/proc/$PID/status = 57336 kB
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 05:36:36 +0000 (UTC) BRBfGWMz <brbfgwmz@concealed.company> allegedly wrote:
Olaf is right
Get a $ 5 per month VPS
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 08:28 AM, Olaf Grimm <jeep665@posteo.de> wrote:
Hello Amadeus!
You don't even need to spend that much. Racknerd have been running promotional deals since black friday. Their current deals can be seen here https://my.racknerd.com/index.php?rp=/store/holiday-sales-2020 So - you can get a twin core VPS with 2 Gig of RAM and 3500 gig of traffic allowance for less than $20.00 for a /year/. Spend a little more and you can get 8 gig of traffic. I bouught two VPS from them about a month ago and they have confirmed that they are OK with Tor nodes, but probably NOT exits. (In their words to me "As long as we will not receive any abuse complaints, then there should be no problems.") Abuse complaints tend to come with exits. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 https://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
On 18.12.2020 17:33, mick wrote:
So - you can get a twin core VPS with 2 Gig of RAM and 3500 gig of traffic allowance for less than $20.00 for a /year/. Spend a little more and you can get 8 gig of traffic.
3500 GB = 1750 GB for a Tor relay. Can be gone in 1-3 days. ;-) Traffic is always counted sum in + out You may have more fun on a bridge. If you run a relay first, don't use the IP later for a bridge! 20-30 MiB/s Tor Relay consumes about 40-50 TB of traffic per month a few weeks after the 14-day ramp-up phase.:-( That is why I am suspicious of some of the 50-90 MiB/s unnamed relays without contact. https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/unnamed%20type:relay%20 VPN or root server with 20-40 MiB/s unlimited traffic is available for EUR 15-30,-/month. -- ╰_╯ Ciao Marco! Debian GNU/Linux It's free software and it gives you freedom!
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 00:15:49 +0100 lists@for-privacy.net allegedly wrote:
On 18.12.2020 17:33, mick wrote:
So - you can get a twin core VPS with 2 Gig of RAM and 3500 gig of traffic allowance for less than $20.00 for a /year/. Spend a little more and you can get 8 gig of traffic.
3500 GB = 1750 GB for a Tor relay. Can be gone in 1-3 days. ;-) Traffic is always counted sum in + out You may have more fun on a bridge. If you run a relay first, don't use the IP later for a bridge!
20-30 MiB/s Tor Relay consumes about 40-50 TB of traffic per month a few weeks after the 14-day ramp-up phase.:-( That is why I am suspicious of some of the 50-90 MiB/s unnamed relays without contact. https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/unnamed%20type:relay%20
VPN or root server with 20-40 MiB/s unlimited traffic is available for EUR 15-30,-/month.
Sure you can get relays with higher traffic allowances, but those tend to be on ASs which /already/ have high concentrations of Tor relays. This is not good for diversity. For example, I can (and do) get 20TB of traffic allowance on my Hetzner relay (https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/AE4FAE2EB5DC5D078458F0FCBF2B3...) but Hetzner already has nearly 450 relays on AS24940 whereas the Racknerd relay is on Colocrossings's AS36352 which only has 21 relays. The OP was considering running a relay at the end of a domestic ADSL line which is not a good idea. Other respondents suggesting renting a cheap VPS - I agreed and simply pointed to a (currently very cheap) alternative. There is a danger that any new Tor relay operator will pick a supplier which is already over represented. We should attempt to avoid that if we can. Tor can be (and in my case is) throttled so that you do not exceed the ISP's allowance but still provide useable extra bandwidth. Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 https://baldric.net/about-trivia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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