Thanks for the prompt response. My apologies for the omission in the original post. My relays are called 405test1 and 405test2. Both relays are vm's on a proxmox server with the only difference in set up being port numbers. I have had both operating since July 2022 with no issues. Thanks again!
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 05:32:20 -0400 From: Chris tor@wcbsecurity.com To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Moving middle relays to bridges? Message-ID: 2d1975a2-6362-48d3-8dc3-05bd16797797@wcbsecurity.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Bridges more or less function as guard relays except their IP addresses are not known. Having a bridge with an IP address that's already know somehow defeats the purpose.
As far as I'm concerned the list of relays should not be public. Only exit relays need to be known for liability reasons. Once we stop publishing IP addresses of relays, the need for bridges will be greatly reduced.
That being said, I believe if your relay is no longer a relay for a week, it will be removed from the public relay list. Not sure if it will be removed from the censors' list. ??
-------- Original Message -------- From: "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com Sent: Tue Oct 04 12:15:52 EDT 2022 To: "tor-relays@lists.torproject.org" tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Moving middle relays to bridges?
Good morning,
According to tor metrics, there have been nearly three times the number of relays as bridges over the last three months so I would like to move my handful of middle relays to bridges. They will keep their same IP address. Is there a best practice with regards to doing this so the directories don't get confused?
Make your day great, Isaac Grover
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Me via tor-relays:
Thanks for the prompt response. My apologies for the omission in the original post. My relays are called 405test1 and 405test2. Both relays are vm's on a proxmox server with the only difference in set up being port numbers. I have had both operating since July 2022 with no issues.
Do you see anything in the logs that could explain the difference? The bandwidth authorities might have issues measuring 405test2 properly (you can check the differences for both relays on https://consensus-health.torproject.org/ at the bottom of the page, entering your relay fingerprints), but I am not sure.
I guess one could have a closer look at the bandwidth files[1] figuring out what they say over the course of the last weeks. Maybe that would shine some light on what is going on (it's a bunch of work, though).
Georg
[1] https://collector.torproject.org/archive/relay-descriptors/bandwidths/
Thanks again!
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 05:32:20 -0400 From: Chris tor@wcbsecurity.com To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Moving middle relays to bridges? Message-ID: 2d1975a2-6362-48d3-8dc3-05bd16797797@wcbsecurity.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Bridges more or less function as guard relays except their IP addresses are not known. Having a bridge with an IP address that's already know somehow defeats the purpose.
As far as I'm concerned the list of relays should not be public. Only exit relays need to be known for liability reasons. Once we stop publishing IP addresses of relays, the need for bridges will be greatly reduced.
That being said, I believe if your relay is no longer a relay for a week, it will be removed from the public relay list. Not sure if it will be removed from the censors' list. ??
-------- Original Message -------- From: "Isaac Grover, Aileron I.T." igrover@aileronit.com Sent: Tue Oct 04 12:15:52 EDT 2022 To: "tor-relays@lists.torproject.org" tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: [tor-relays] Moving middle relays to bridges?
Good morning,
According to tor metrics, there have been nearly three times the number of relays as bridges over the last three months so I would like to move my handful of middle relays to bridges. They will keep their same IP address. Is there a best practice with regards to doing this so the directories don't get confused?
Make your day great, Isaac Grover
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Good day, Not sure if this would be the proper avenue to pursue this. I operate a couple of middle relays from my home server. All seemed well until this morning. Three days ago one was promoted to guard status while the other lags behind. This morning I check the Tor metrics page and the consensus weight graphs on both relays have bottomed out. The other metrics do not have appeared to have remained normal for daily operations. Any suggestions or input are greatly appreciated -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/attachments/20221005/d0e51c9c/attachment-0001.htm
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Good day, Not sure if this would be the proper avenue to pursue this. I operate a couple of middle relays from my home server. All seemed well until this morning. Three days ago one was promoted to guard status while the other lags behind. This morning I check the Tor metrics page and the consensus weight graphs on both relays have bottomed out. The other metrics do not have appeared to have remained normal for daily operations. Any suggestions or input are greatly appreciated
My first idea would be sending you to the relay lifecycle blog post[1], in particular Phase 3. But maybe we could look closer if you said which relays you are running (and which are affected). :)
Georg
[1] https://blog.torproject.org/lifecycle-of-a-new-relay/
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