OnionTip.com distributes Bitcoin donations to all BTC addresses set in ContactInfo
Hi, apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight. There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$. There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...) but I really like this very simple and practical approach. Thoughts?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization. My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better. - -- Tim Semeijn pgp 0x08CE9B4D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJT55CmAAoJEB4F+FYIzptNpPQIAJ8JpkdkwC+mrxEtYLemHCzk dPl6bB14XMS9JK1gefNbTBhwlp+eDJp6PPvtk8xzEkyen7J/7cKUr34h+S2liBp7 jrWuCc+dZffEwzTEGxqBEP0weR/9ECwfRAWtABxll5JtaSIl/TJRDUtbs6P5apnu vxris1S1e2dBt7w5e71PhR9e3rmAaCps8QzH2MKFCm5RGaN3FSPVUteRzdzppWZo QG2RFQJ29kbNf7qyFDD/Epy0xKaBNbgWJwsOyRrn/yT8FQ29mpfNxKZ3zvwV5vDC 8NQ0uNWpvzzx8AFfAsi5+rRe1rcsiiZIhG5rpdSHt2hd41F8jk+cvJnHeg8rcrc= =C8v+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc. Tom
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 8/10/14, 6:48 PM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote:
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Visibility would indeed be nice. You can see at the bottom of the page though how much BTC has been donated. Clicking the links of the BTC addresses of everyone listed shows what transactions have been made from oniontip to the relay operators. A more prominent way to monitor this would be handy though. - -- Tim Semeijn pgp 0x08CE9B4D -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJT56UwAAoJEB4F+FYIzptNsPcH/jq3suLHwyzjb1dGjmb1F+dh A/W/EoEMTJeorJxuwT1KcXDBitvovsoR6Hi4jO59ZWnsghCoyyqvT1m+Ubhca1Ft VTTs1rSroBeTZSRVUSH92BnkJynPqYQ4PomrPDXVWF/iNLW2lLi5cu7vgHtzBBPO PUiqgnnWqxITz1DQfk/g34JBI6wrBgo33gjXen8eKuNWV0MsTHFGDgnNstUUgl96 8IyAD6rDmub105sXbH2YH8KYEoGnFMOEPuAKO44rJc+D5vttoIEaWCIworQ7u3Qe fNMlaJZcIgfR0KOYrwkMHvhLuH403v7SO9SI/3O86Dyi6L1b8FC0rSoIqcVZSsM= =hPAj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 10 Aug 2014, at 19:00, Tim Semeijn <noc@bbln.org> wrote:
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
There's a fun incentive shift here. By trying to cheat the consensus weight, you won't just get more traffic sent your way, but more money from oniontip, too. I bet someone could explore this further. Still, I think it's a great idea and I am happy people are playing around with ways to give back to relay operators. Cheers Sebastian
An answer might be to use bitcoin multisig transactions () so that OnionTip AND the relay is necessary to finalize the transaction. -J On 08/10/2014 04:48 PM, Tom van der Woerdt wrote:
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Tim Semeijn schreef op 10/08/14 17:33:
On 8/10/14, 4:32 PM, ban@unseen.is wrote:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...)
but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I myself added a bitcoin address to the ContactInfo variable of my nodes when I saw a tweet about this initiative. It is a nice way to offer a way to donate to multiple node running volunteers instead of donating to a specific person or organization.
My nodes take up 20% of the current donations based on consensus so it would be nice if more relay operators take part in this project to make it resemble the current Tor network better.
I really like this and I've added an address to my exits (4.2% of total exit consensus). However, for this to really kick off I'd recommend adding visibility on how many donations were received and how it was distributed across relays. There should be safeguards to prevent oniontip.com from taking a part of the money, etc.
Tom
_______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Agreed, this is pretty awesome. It allows independent relay operators to receive donations no matter where they are in the world whether or not they are affiliated with any group. The donations are transparent, since the money can be followed on the Bitcoin blockchain to ensure that your donation made it to the individual addresses of the relay operators.
After just a few days the tor nodes containing a bitcoin address in their ContactInfo more than doubled, right now there are 205 nodes in the list which represend more than 8% of the consensus. Now about 180 US$ have been donated. Imagine the amount donated to the noisetor bitcoin address [1] would be distributed in this fair and transparent way to many tor relay operators via OnionTip.com! Is it already discussed by organisations like torservers.net or noisetor or even torproject directly to use this fair and easy mechanism to compensate relay operators? What about other founders wanting to finance Tor relays? [1] https://blockchain.info/address/1PFH8NPWu2g6TdRQsirTPGpbnPBhkzQMvM Am 2014-08-10 14:32, schrieb ban@unseen.is:
Hi,
apparently this hasn't been discussed here yet. About a month ago, Donncha O'Cearbhaill build https://oniontip.com/ during the Dublin Bitcoin Hackathon. It is a webapp which automatically extracts all Bitcoin addresses set in the ContactInfo variable of the torrc and distributes Bitcoin donations based on the consensus weight.
There are already 100+ relays listed which represent around 5% of the total consensus weight. In just a few weeks they distributed around 125 US$.
There are many other theoretical ways to provide compensation to tor relay operators (see https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-incentives-research-roundup-goldstar-pa...) but I really like this very simple and practical approach.
Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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