Torservers.net relays not updated yet?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi torservers, since you haven't updated most of your relays to address [1] released on 2014-07-28 yet, I was wondering if everything is ok? collective vacation? Since you are operating a significant chunk of the tor network's bw - timely patching is appreciated. The tor network is currently at 64% of the bandwidth being served by relays running a recommended version according to torstatus.blutmagie.de. I updated a previous metrics feature request so we might see nice graphs about patching progress in the future [2]. [1] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-announce/2014-July/000094.html [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/6856#comment:2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT7+R/AAoJEDcK3SCCSvoeevcP/06Jg2ubrbbD+SKe32necCd2 OCp4auBI3M8LjxVwJMaMi1aBW81Y513shnghYvAVLRe8NCFuem0mnWfeZq6fjrqd kKvksRhCUo2ERK7covRaoVJ8Aqs37MDJh7B48v/FYcbQYbeRIw6+OUmysC6qMPvP gi+ReWFL77kW4hAK+05z6VeaBq6FfKA8L2FRF12ahtGokCO9BnPM1DijHnA4kLJG Fh2YxbWegd5wVna3PJrubjyJ5ANHM0L5pS0dPZZNobat7Sdrux7dhLo2VdHqZFT5 etykHjc18iJhm7z0r4qjYo58gEAx9CebTqdq2w22TBQFnXPaEt9oPktpdG1Q+Ba+ wPiOOBODyngqSUICD6LRGFq3L9Xa+1RrxORD+d+XmsrGhire+83BLkxDZ/JqUB0Z ZY4NEc13tTQqxPfqB6yQyU/XjTPl45zYWsaAxBjzX/AqoXgkwAQkBwdpFrUeu0O3 UiHe4DLhYtcoeOJjisqfl8t7xbyi5TduKfFH10Erglr3WX/OJ/Pau1N/tDtNqey8 GbrZSXVtv0ch7T31Cp6hYrZwxYnucUBcotcOX01+k158zpI5wv87WCwpc9ncDO3t Oj8ORAL/MbgtYh0JaE1wIP0zSuhhWY2Y+qzdXnTwoYMbfDNnLUjcgZzbZNOhEu+E Y3LfuCsT+DI5TpwIp6tK =FZKz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi Nusenu, On 08/17/2014 01:08 AM, Nusenu wrote:
since you haven't updated most of your relays to address [1] released on 2014-07-28 yet, I was wondering if everything is ok? collective vacation?
Indeed. This is terrible and we will add some more trusted people's ssh keys to the relays, but then again we really want to limit the number of keys that can access our relays for security reasons... I am returning from vacation tomorrow and will update all relays. Sorry for the delay. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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On 08/17/2014 01:08 AM, Nusenu wrote:
since you haven't updated most of your relays to address [1] released on 2014-07-28 yet, I was wondering if everything is ok? collective vacation?
Indeed. This is terrible and we will add some more trusted people's ssh keys to the relays, but then again we really want to limit the number of keys that can access our relays for security reasons...
Please consider unattended automated updates. Maybe start with a few relays first. Even in your environment (I guess you do custom builds) I consider this to be the option that results in the fasted response times and safest network. Worst case would be that the upgrade fails and all your relays go down. Depending on the actual vulnerability that is being fixed, an offline relay can be preferred over a vulnerable relay. Most of the time it will probably work just fine and safe you some time doing boring updates.
I am returning from vacation tomorrow and will update all relays. Sorry for the delay.
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On 08/17/2014 03:12 PM, Nusenu wrote:
Please consider unattended automated updates. Maybe start with a few relays first.
I wanted to switch to unattended upgrades a long time ago, but the story of our relay "management" is more complicated than that... I really want some proper control, the ability to centrally update the MyFamily statement, etc etc. There have been some threads about it on the mailing list over time, but as we're all volunteers we can't magically fix everything immediately... -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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I wanted to switch to unattended upgrades a long time ago, but the story of our relay "management" is more complicated than that...
What were the specific problems with unattended upgrades?
There have been some threads about it on the mailing list
I was not aware about any threads regarding unattended torservers upgrades. Would you point us to them?
over time, but as we're all volunteers we can't magically fix everything immediately...
Well I hope I didn't make the impression that you should "fix everything immediately". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT8MTrAAoJEDcK3SCCSvoefNAP/idFiVJILa3IQUz0czQX3ojZ OU8JpxWUmYaLBK2dLAtbTNVsjZd8+ESbx2Ww3EgjNXNIpok8AXp7lmbRBt7ZPyqD yM84/1AzN3Y3FopjrGHnZnnURbJWIYnEEfpP1WKUQVHBdZo9nePZ0aK/fVFiHz5/ hhMjvAfgPKXxsbYYJoOvue8sfeK4c9bmwbpriYbGz10iO47yTBQuQ4CXDEcV5PcW Rpl9J4ZbbBe9Lj2vYG+8PAqU/nb1aZ0oFcToBEGwS3SeLVEPS1EMirEQtHfy7zLI LXJDm/olQ58eneAS0FhTgc7Qv2u1aK8+sfucof0JX5jLPvs2bsf8TNHDL2/YpEEe l7PD4jo1uNuh5WinFFcyGpsRb/i3JWpqCFBDShEXsNOXijiH/hykoqHESjF354x9 md9SAd3sOCKLe6T/J8gKPiQ0RxVHWnrqJTfjk91X9NAy3LBqUhBwza2bZIoQkgeM ZlZrCvQmTVx9oo4Iqi3HBmL9cpksI8Kx/zkAjRcOecdnKZFTRJsqOUwedQXcW1vn G101kaC/LWFJRVDt94NDbnrilthbmY8LZF2PLIFoR1od0xN0zYRsf17UWe9DRx5y JMqCkMrW4xCh9s1j9xy3NyNtjLwcT7xzacnL9p7SSCnHeH1Wa8JK2VCngrV+BMJm mgn4FrbcO+j2gtdWQKS3 =BahY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
There are some nice plugins for puppet, chef, ansible, etc. Should save you a lot of time on software deployment! Gr, Nils On August 17, 2014 3:35:14 PM CEST, Moritz Bartl <moritz@torservers.net> wrote:
On 08/17/2014 03:12 PM, Nusenu wrote:
Please consider unattended automated updates. Maybe start with a few relays first.
I wanted to switch to unattended upgrades a long time ago, but the story of our relay "management" is more complicated than that... I really want some proper control, the ability to centrally update the MyFamily statement, etc etc. There have been some threads about it on the mailing list over time, but as we're all volunteers we can't magically fix everything immediately...
-- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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Moritz Bartl (2014-08-17):
I am returning from vacation tomorrow and will update all relays. Sorry for the delay.
Are these torservers' relays and is blutmagie showing their current version? (not updated yet): http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=2e640cda9cbf297be314948a3... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=15edba6cea72079e1fd538426... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=e6576a2bcf0c3cbd78dd375d4... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=5723495c31e02098f370f0797... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=b4494cea9df0d72a6d3a124e2... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=7ceb6540f80f7aef17ab7ffb6... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=db3b1cfbd3e4d97b84b548add... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=f84fcb4ab1678dfa9c0bec40c... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=384f445014e041f5fb566f18c... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=e4b01298454b2d4795556f4fc... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=73834871a46790e65d6966131... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=a08b0f041474bc94806374ef0... http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=9b41b9b3d4661566c660096b7...
On 09/01/2014 08:17 PM, Nusenu wrote:
Are these torservers' relays and is blutmagie showing their current version? (not updated yet):
Thanks for being the necessary watchdog. Generally, better use atlas or globe. You can also query onionoo directly if you have specific questions. Blutmagie still runs the quite outdated old Torstatus that has not been maintained for years and sometimes shows strange things. In this case, it is right though: Two boxes weren't updated correctly. The rest of the relays aren't from us, even though they show our contact info (probably people who used our template torrc and didn't adjust the contact lines). -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
Are these torservers' relays and is blutmagie showing their current version? (not updated yet):
Two boxes weren't updated correctly. The rest of the relays aren't from us, even though they show our contact info
Hi Moritz, your answer was not very specific. Is anonymizer1.torservers.net (81.20.139.145) - still running a vulnerable version (0.2.5.3-alpha) - not one of your relays? https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/9B41B9B3D4661566C660096B715BC647FBD72A...
On 09/18/2014 10:08 PM, Nusenu wrote:
Is anonymizer1.torservers.net (81.20.139.145) - still running a vulnerable version (0.2.5.3-alpha) - not one of your relays? https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/9B41B9B3D4661566C660096B715BC647FBD72A...
It has since been upgraded. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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