Best way for normal OS X users to run a relay?
What is the best way to run a relay on OS X currently? Now that the Vidalia bundles are deprecated and hard to find, I believe we have no packages or bundles for OS X other than TBB 3.x? So either "install from source, write your own init script, hope you know what ulimit -n is, good luck with that" or "install tbb3 and edit the torrc, still hope you know what ulimit -n is" are the current options? Compare with https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian for the Debian/Ubuntu users, where our deb takes care of a lot of these things for them. Assuming my summary is accurate, what are some good ways to move forward here? Thanks! --Roger
On 2014-06-05 00:06, Roger Dingledine wrote:
What is the best way to run a relay on OS X currently?
TBB I would say. But if you just want tor though, try Homebrew: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/tor.rb aka: brew install tor edit config start it Greets, Jeroen
On 06/04/2014 06:35 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2014-06-05 00:06, Roger Dingledine wrote:
What is the best way to run a relay on OS X currently?
But if you just want tor though, try Homebrew: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/tor.rb
We could really use relay-only bundles again, one for non-exit and one for exit relay. Something simple for osx as a dmg/zip to extract and run (in a Terminal window at a minimum). We could use these for Windows too. -- Andrew pgp 0x6B4D6475 https://www.torproject.org/ +1-781-948-1982
Andrew Lewman:
On 06/04/2014 06:35 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2014-06-05 00:06, Roger Dingledine wrote:
What is the best way to run a relay on OS X currently?
But if you just want tor though, try Homebrew: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/tor.rb
We could really use relay-only bundles again, one for non-exit and one for exit relay. Something simple for osx as a dmg/zip to extract and run (in a Terminal window at a minimum).
We could use these for Windows too.
I guess the question here is whether these bundles help or actually hurt the network? I mean people install OSX and windows on their personal computers, not their servers. Every time they close the lid of their laptop a nod will go down. -- Nima 0XC009DB191C92A77B | @nimaaa | mrphs "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" --Evelyn Beatrice Hall
I guess the question here is whether >these bundles help or actually hurt the network?
I mean people install OSX and >windows on their personal >computers, not their servers. Every time they close >the lid of their laptop a nod will go down.
They could run it on a desktop. Lots of people leave their desktop machines running 24/7. --- GPG/PGP Fingerprint 7E0D 0A66 02B0 8515 AD44 A7DC A140 CC10 5818 BFEA https://arlen.io/key
JT Allison:
I guess the question here is whether >these bundles help or actually hurt the network?
I mean people install OSX and >windows on their personal
computers, not their servers. Every time they close >the lid of their laptop a nod will go down.
They could run it on a desktop. Lots of people leave their desktop machines running 24/7.
Is it advisable to run a Tor node on a personal computer? This has probably been discussed before, but I was under the impression that this isn't always recommended (especially for exit nodes), e.g. in the case of seizure. -- Andrew Roffey http://andrew.roffey.org GPG personal: 0x9657B073
On 2014-06-05 05:31, Andrew Lewman wrote:
On 06/04/2014 06:35 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2014-06-05 00:06, Roger Dingledine wrote:
What is the best way to run a relay on OS X currently?
But if you just want tor though, try Homebrew: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/Library/Formula/tor.rb
We could really use relay-only bundles again, one for non-exit and one for exit relay. Something simple for osx as a dmg/zip to extract and run (in a Terminal window at a minimum).
Homebrew does that, it really does not get simpler than: Install brew once, from http://brew.sh/: ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/go/install)" and then: brew install tor This also handles updates, as brew takes care of it: brew update brew upgrade (does need a restart of relevant binaries) The only thing that would be better is having it in the App Store as then updates are forced (unless turned off). The only thing that should be in the App Store though is TBB. And possibly you do not want it in the App Store as that requires an AppleID and thus your full identity gets exposed as "I am running Tor", which might not be what somebody wants to reveal.
We could use these for Windows too.
As with OSX, Windows is also mostly a desktop operating system. I would really recommend against running tor in such an personal environment, especially for exit relays. There is also a problem with automagic updates, people do not perform those like on a Debian platform. Best answer for this: run Tails in a VM and upgrade Tails often when a new one comes out. Hence, provide a Tails VM that can be easily clicked/installed including VirtualBox would better solve your problem. Greets, Jeroen
Il 6/5/14, 12:06 AM, Roger Dingledine ha scritto:
Assuming my summary is accurate, what are some good ways to move forward here?
Tor Project need to publish a Tor Relay only application on the Mac OS X App Store. Any other solution is outside the availability of the average user in terms of usability. -- Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) HERMES - Center for Transparency and Digital Human Rights http://logioshermes.org - http://globaleaks.org - http://tor2web.org
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