
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/0c8ec0852a07b41edfd74b1cfbe83ded/r... I expect them to be run by a single entity. People with exit scanners might want to keep an eye on them.


Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP. On May 7, 2016 2:32 AM, "nusenu" <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/0c8ec0852a07b41edfd74b1cfbe83ded/r...
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Maybe botnet ? On May 7, 2016 2:46:31 PM GMT+02:00, Tristan <supersluether@gmail.com> wrote:
Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP. On May 7, 2016 2:32 AM, "nusenu" <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
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On Sat, 7 May 2016 07:46:31 -0500 Tristan <supersluether@gmail.com> wrote:
Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP.
That's news to me. https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/terms/ Apart from accounts that have grandfathered free bandwidth, where is this mentioned? Regards, -- Yawning Angel

Apologies, I must be thinking of a different service. I thought it was DO, but I don't recognize the layout of the website. On May 7, 2016 1:29 PM, "Yawning Angel" <yawning@schwanenlied.me> wrote:
On Sat, 7 May 2016 07:46:31 -0500 Tristan <supersluether@gmail.com> wrote:
Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP.
That's news to me.
https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/terms/
Apart from accounts that have grandfathered free bandwidth, where is this mentioned?
Regards,
-- Yawning Angel
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 05/07/2016 08:27 PM, Yawning Angel wrote:
Apart from accounts that have grandfathered free bandwidth, where is this mentioned?
from https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/terms/ : Notwithstanding the foregoing, Subscribers of Grandfathered Accounts must NOT: (i) run Torrents for download or Seed Servers, TOR, ... - -- Toralf PGP: C4EACDDE 0076E94E, OTR: 420E74C8 30246EE7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlcuNhAACgkQxOrN3gB26U6nigD/QwfA/pt8L/2u0NeTtKAwNNvm LlGk/6OvnUN0w6s4SWMA/jqb1angSyfU08jpNrewc9kvQbvuio72qSGuXo+hUyQI =4Ae7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Sat, 7 May 2016 20:38:08 +0200 Toralf Förster <toralf.foerster@gmx.de> wrote:
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On 05/07/2016 08:27 PM, Yawning Angel wrote:
Apart from accounts that have grandfathered free bandwidth, where is this mentioned?
from https://www.digitalocean.com/legal/terms/ :
Notwithstanding the foregoing, Subscribers of Grandfathered Accounts must NOT: (i) run Torrents for download or Seed Servers, TOR, ...
Yes and? (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apart_from) -- Yawning Angel

On Sat, 7 May 2016 07:46:31 -0500 Tristan <supersluether@gmail.com> allegedly wrote:
Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP.
Not so. I've been running a tor node on DO for three years now. They know it, they are happy, so am I. Mic --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 7 May 2016 07:46:31 -0500 Tristan <supersluether@gmail.com> wrote:
Strange that some of the relays are running on Digital Ocean. Running a Tor relay of any kind is against their AUP.
That's like... asking why bank robbers don't stop at traffic lights. I mean this looks like an attempt to capture people's (in general or of some specific target) cleartext traffic, quite likely with nefarious intent, and you wonder why they break some random company TOS. (That said, yeah, as others have replied DO TOS only restricts "grandfathered" accounts in this regard.) -- With respect, Roman

On Sun, 8 May 2016 02:46:42 +0500 Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net> allegedly wrote:
(That said, yeah, as others have replied DO TOS only restricts "grandfathered" accounts in this regard.)
Again, not so. I have a grandfathered account. DO have never had a problem with my Tor node (or my other high traffic VMs). Mick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mick Morgan gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 http://baldric.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:43:42 +0100 mick <mbm@rlogin.net> wrote:
On Sun, 8 May 2016 02:46:42 +0500 Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net> allegedly wrote:
(That said, yeah, as others have replied DO TOS only restricts "grandfathered" accounts in this regard.)
Again, not so. I have a grandfathered account. DO have never had a problem with my Tor node (or my other high traffic VMs).
You cannot argue that DO TOS doesn't have that restriction because it does, however I never said they actually enforce it, at least currently. My guess is when they implement bandwidth metering (yes the worst-kept "secret" about DO is that ALL their VMs are bandwidth unmetered at the moment), that's when they will start looking at grandfathered accounts abusing their remaining unmetered status and stripping them off it if any abuse found. -- With respect, Roman

So I could run a high traffic TOR exit node on a $5 VPS? oO Sounds too good to be true... 2016-05-08 15:52 GMT+02:00 Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>:
On Sun, 8 May 2016 14:43:42 +0100 mick <mbm@rlogin.net> wrote:
On Sun, 8 May 2016 02:46:42 +0500 Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net> allegedly wrote:
(That said, yeah, as others have replied DO TOS only restricts "grandfathered" accounts in this regard.)
Again, not so. I have a grandfathered account. DO have never had a problem with my Tor node (or my other high traffic VMs).
You cannot argue that DO TOS doesn't have that restriction because it does, however I never said they actually enforce it, at least currently.
My guess is when they implement bandwidth metering (yes the worst-kept "secret" about DO is that ALL their VMs are bandwidth unmetered at the moment), that's when they will start looking at grandfathered accounts abusing their remaining unmetered status and stripping them off it if any abuse found.
-- With respect, Roman
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