Hello everybody,
A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions:
1. Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7.
2. If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml)
Thanks! -- Alexey Naiden
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nayden@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions:
- Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or 20+ TB
of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7.
- If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly good
enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml)
I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far.
Hi Alexey-san,
I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that.
However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year).
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nayden@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions:
- Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or
20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7.
- If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly
good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml)
I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far.
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Hello,
I'm planning on starting an exit relay at instantservers [1]. They wrote me that they are OK with tor exit nodes, but you are supposed to answer abuse mails within 24h.
Maybe anyone else already has some experience with instantservers?
server4you also seems to be very cheap...so what happend with the "False exit abuse from server4you" a few days ago?
cheers!
[1] https://www.instantservers.eu/kvm1.php
On 09.06.2015 18:28, Andrej Manduch wrote:
Hi Alexey-san,
I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that.
However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year).
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nayden@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions:
- Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or
20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7.
- If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly
good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml)
I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far.
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Am 09.06.2015 um 18:36 schrieb fatal:
Hello,
... server4you also seems to be very cheap...so what happend with the "False exit abuse from server4you" a few days ago?
In my case (relay only) they sort of apoligized, one other guy had an exit running and was given the choice to either change to relay or go to hell. They still don't mention Tor itself but pointed to some weird interpretation of their T&Cs which might disallow any form of email server too, if you play by the book. The smallest possibility of transmitting files/data which might be not yours might be enough in their interpretation.
cheers!
[1] https://www.instantservers.eu/kvm1.php
On 09.06.2015 18:28, Andrej Manduch wrote:
Hi Alexey-san,
I'm running tor exit relay on VPS from amerinoc and they didn't seems to have problem with that. I mentioned that when I asked them to change abuse e-mail for ip-address and they were ok with that.
However I would definitly recommend you to take look at this list: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
I also heard that https://hosting.wedos.com/en/ are very tor friendly and they're really cheap (about 100 bucks/year).
On 06/09/2015 11:43 AM, Stephen R Guglielmo wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 22:35:28 -0700 Alexey Nayden alexey.nayden@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
A couple of months ago I decided to run a Tor exit relay. I contacted several VPS and dedicated providers and ended up using PulseServers, because they offered unmetered fast channel for ~$13/month and were Tor-friendly. Only after installing and configuring the relay I realized their IPs are from OVH AS and they are OVH resellers. I understand OVH AS'es already dominate the network and should be avoided if possible, so I have 2 questions:
- Is there a comparable alternative? 100 Mbit/s unmetered (or
20+ TB of traffic) for less than $20/month. I imagine cheap OpenVZ virts can't handle even 100 Mbit/s anyway, so I'm not looking for top performance, but I want something that can do at least 50 Mbit/s 24/7.
- If one decided to use OVH AS, are VPS that OVH sells directly
good enough? They have virts as cheap as 2.99/month with at least 10Tb at 100Mbit/s (http://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml)
I can't say for exits, but I use the OVH Classic VPS ($2.99/mo) to run one of my relays. It's not an exit node. I let them know about it and paid a year in advance. No problems whatsoever with them thus far.
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I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well.
I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind.
You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024.
If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps "clean"). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim:
"Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final."
I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on.
Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money.
Matt Speak Freely
I was sure I'm the only Tor-exit customer of PulseServers, it's nice to know I'm not alone.
I agree Kyle is very friendly and responsive. I think I'm going to try opticservers.com as well, they look pretty cheap and if you're saying they're exit-friendly as well, it sounds like a great option. Thanks for sharing this details.
Kind regards, Alexey Nayden
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Speak Freely when2plus2is5@riseup.net wrote:
I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well.
I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind.
You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024.
If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps "clean"). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim:
"Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final."
I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on.
Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money.
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I'm running two servers through SolarVPS and they were cool with running exits. Pre-paid $51/year per server. So far so good.
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/614FCCB06C88FA00CD6BDCF405F2552ED08FF9... https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/6A40217CDB92106793F04AEBAEB3028AAB3FAD...
James
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Speak Freely when2plus2is5@riseup.net wrote:
I've got a few relays with PulseServers as well.
I really like them. I've spoken to the owner Kyle quite a few times. I accepted that he is a reseller of OVH, reluctantly, because their abuse department are fuc... Nevermind.
You could try opticservers.com, based in the UK. I have a few relays with them. The owner Joe is also very nice. From what I understand, it is all his own equipment, so no OVH. 100mbit/s unmetered at ~$7USD (it's in British currency, so whatever the conversion rate is for £4). I wouldn't suggest the 256MB ram, go for 512/1024.
If you must go with OVH, then I'd suggest buying a $3 vps as well, and don't run a relay on it (keep at least 1 vps "clean"). I lost 11 annual-subscription relays because all of the relays were blacklisted, and that was enough for them to claim the following verbatim:
"Your account was suspended because 100% of your IPs are blacklisted on multiples lists for Spam and other malicious activities. This case is closed and this decision is final."
I checked all of the relays. DanTor reported Tor relays, CBL aggregates from DanTor, SpamHaus Zen aggregates from CBL, and those were the only blacklists any of my relays were on.
Of course, I repeatedly contacted them prior to spending all of my money on annual subscriptions to make sure it was okay, and I have the emails telling me they support it, and they even commented on how important these types of projects are. But they still shut down all of my relays and kept all of my money.
Matt Speak Freely _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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