On 8/30/2013 1:04 PM, Andy Isaacson wrote:

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:38:26AM -0400, That Guy wrote:

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I run an exit node off of a residential Verizon connection and I haven't seen a single threat, legal or otherwise so far, I dunno why you're having so much trouble. Thank you for the reply but I have not either. My comments come from reading many such issues on the mailing list and the many many experiences documented on the Good/bad ISP lists on the torproject websites. I've had zero trouble with the sigle relay I'm running but as I also try to encourage others to run relays I was curious as I don't want to put OTHERS in a bad situation. I ran a non-exit relay at home for many years without hearing any complaints. (I moved away from that ISP at the end of 2012 so I no longer run that relay). I haven't seen a credible description of a non-exit relay being the cause of a complaint -- in most cases I have seen described, there were several possible causes for a complaint and the Tor relay was just one possible cause.

So, I would have no problem encouraging others to run a non-exit relay on their home connection, since I don't believe that it is likely to put them in a bad situation. I would be clear with them that they should be aware of the technical issues when doing so, of course.

-andy _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

I have recently seen several e-commerce websites blocking all traffic coming from IP addresses that are known to be used by Tor relays, including non-exit relays. That means _all_ traffic, including legitimate traffic. In my personal experience, Ancestry.com and justanswer.com are currently blocking my residential IP address because I am running a non-exit relay from home. Others are having similar experiences. If this is the beginning of a trend, the useability of Tor will drop dramatically unless a counter-measure is developed. David C