Re: [tor-relays] Mozilla-Middles losing guard
at this very moment all of them got the flag, right. But theyre loosing it at seemingly random order. I kept an eye on Atlas for some time, at 18:00 (UTC+1) Mozilla13 was at 1.51 MB/s without Guardflag. On Tue, February 17, 2015 19:50, Nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
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i am wondering about losing of guard state of the Mozilla Middle Relays. what makes you think they [1] lost guard flag?
[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/mozilla https://consensus-health.torproject.org/consensus-health.html
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2/17/2015 10:59 AM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
at this very moment all of them got the flag, right. But theyre loosing it at seemingly random order. I kept an eye on Atlas for some time, at 18:00 (UTC+1) Mozilla13 was at 1.51 MB/s without Guardflag.
On Tue, February 17, 2015 19:50, Nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
i am wondering about losing of guard state of the Mozilla Middle Relays.
what makes you think they [1] lost guard flag?
[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/mozilla https://consensus-health.torproject.org/consensus-health.html
My relay gains/loses guard occasionally, what's the concern regarding?>> _______________________________________________
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probably needless concerns, right. i see, thanks for clearing this out for me! On Tue, February 17, 2015 20:11, Kurt Besig <kbesig@socal.rr.com> wrote:
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On 2/17/2015 10:59 AM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
at this very moment all of them got the flag, right. But theyre loosing it at seemingly random order. I kept an eye on Atlas for some time, at 18:00 (UTC+1) Mozilla13 was at 1.51 MB/s without Guardflag.
On Tue, February 17, 2015 19:50, Nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
i am wondering about losing of guard state of the Mozilla Middle Relays. what makes you think they [1] lost guard flag?
[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/mozilla https://consensus-health.torproject.org/consensus-health.html My relay gains/loses guard occasionally, what's the concern regarding?>> _______________________________________________
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 The speed matters. Some time ago, Guard flag parameters were changed little bit, so now the Guard flag is assigned to 25% of the fastest relays in the network (of course which are also stable and have good uptime and have been around in the network for a while). This means that if the speed drops down, the Guard flag could go away with it. By the reference speed I can see below of 1.51 MB/s it's quite near/under the limit. If you had for example 5MB/s constant, you would not lose the Guard flag not even some of the times. On 2/17/2015 9:22 PM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
probably needless concerns, right. i see, thanks for clearing this out for me!
On Tue, February 17, 2015 20:11, Kurt Besig <kbesig@socal.rr.com> wrote:
On 2/17/2015 10:59 AM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
at this very moment all of them got the flag, right. But theyre loosing it at seemingly random order. I kept an eye on Atlas for some time, at 18:00 (UTC+1) Mozilla13 was at 1.51 MB/s without Guardflag.
On Tue, February 17, 2015 19:50, Nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
> i am wondering about losing of guard state of the > Mozilla Middle Relays.
what makes you think they [1] lost guard flag?
[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/mozilla https://consensus-health.torproject.org/consensus-health.html
My relay gains/loses guard occasionally, what's the concern regarding?>> _______________________________________________
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right, cause of that i thought about splitting the total mozilla- bandwidth through 10 relays insted of 12 relays could raise bandwidth per server above the guardlimit to hold it more constantly. but i would belive if this is not requested by consensus. longterm wight seems not to be affected cause of gaining or losing guardflag. ...but what we want are nonmalicious guards, right? so maybe it could make sense anyway. On Tue, February 17, 2015 21:09, s7r <s7r@sky-ip.org> wrote:bandwidth
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The speed matters. Some time ago, Guard flag parameters were changed little bit, so now the Guard flag is assigned to 25% of the fastest relays in the network (of course which are also stable and have good uptime and have been around in the network for a while). This means that if the speed drops down, the Guard flag could go away with it. By the reference speed I can see below of 1.51 MB/s it's quite near/under the limit.
If you had for example 5MB/s constant, you would not lose the Guard flag not even some of the times.
On 2/17/2015 9:22 PM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
probably needless concerns, right. i see, thanks for clearing this out for me!
On Tue, February 17, 2015 20:11, Kurt Besig <kbesig@socal.rr.com> wrote:
On 2/17/2015 10:59 AM, lpwzi9i84@use.startmail.com wrote:
at this very moment all of them got the flag, right. But theyre loosing it at seemingly random order. I kept an eye on Atlas for some time, at 18:00 (UTC+1) Mozilla13 was at 1.51 MB/s without Guardflag.
On Tue, February 17, 2015 19:50, Nusenu <nusenu@openmailbox.org> wrote:
>> i am wondering about losing of guard state of the >> Mozilla Middle Relays. what makes you think they [1] lost guard flag?
[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/mozilla https://consensus-health.torproject.org/consensus-health.html
My relay gains/loses guard occasionally, what's the concern regarding?>> _______________________________________________
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FYI there is an open ticket about this. My relay is also experiencing this problem. https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/14763
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