Le vendredi 15 novembre 2013 à 17:15 +0100, Lunar a écrit :

Eric van der Vlist:

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I am a (happy) Gandi customer and I'd like to support the Tor project by setting up an exit node on one of their VPS (https://www.gandi.net/hosting/iaas).

As mentioned on the list of Good/bad ISPs, (https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs Gandi does accept Tor exit nodes. I have contacted their technical support who said they did support the Tor project but wouldn't ne able to do specific ARIN declarations and that it would be my responsibility to be reactive to abuse complaints.

Despite this perspective (and Julien Robin's bad experience) I am still willing to give it a try.

Gandi have data centers in Paris (France), Luxembourg and Baltimore (US) that I can use with the same cost and efforts and I am wondering which of these locations would be more useful for the community.

Gandi is currently sponsoring a 25 Mbit/s exit node [1] for Nos Oignons [2]. (There should be a formal announcement soon.)

That's good news indeed.

The offer came after a high burst of complaints from several Tor relay operators who became unable to continue hosting a relay given the new billing policy that started in June [3]. If you can afford to run a relay there, that's great, but it is likely to be quite costly.

Without bandwidth limitation that's true. OTH, I currently consume only ~ 50 Gbits/month and the limit is 500 Gbits. Would a relay limited to let's say 200 or 300 Gbits/month still be useful for the community?

Or would it be more useful to host entry points?

Let's hope Gandi will be able to sponsor more bandwidth in the future as the AS could probably support a little bit more of the Tor network [4].

Yes. An option could be to suggest them to sell "Tor support credits" which could be more efficient both for them and for us than having individuals running their own Tor exit nodes.

[1] https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/7F2CD6BD548C5FFA09B20A0C5CB07893C94516... [2] https://nos-oignons.net/ [3] https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/tor-relays-fr/2013-05/msg00005.html (in french) [4] https://compass.torproject.org/#?ases=AS29169&top=-1

Thanks for your answer and the pointers !

Eric

Le vendredi 15 novembre 2013 à 08:15 -0800, Gordon Morehouse a écrit :

Eric van der Vlist:

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Hi list,

I am a (happy) Gandi customer and I'd like to support the Tor project by setting up an exit node on one of their VPS (https://www.gandi.net/hosting/iaas).

I left GANDI with my relay node because of their new bandwidth caps. Mind the bandwidth, unless you have the money to pay for it.

That's true. I don't really understand this policy that limits the bandwidth per account, independently of the number of servers and amount spent!

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As mentioned on the list of Good/bad ISPs, (https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs Gandi does accept Tor exit nodes. I have contacted their technical support who said they did support the Tor project but wouldn't ne able to do specific ARIN declarations and that it would be my responsibility to be reactive to abuse complaints.

Despite this perspective (and Julien Robin's bad experience) I am still willing to give it a try.

Gandi have data centers in Paris (France), Luxembourg and Baltimore (US) that I can use with the same cost and efforts and I am wondering which of these locations would be more useful for the community.

I would avoid the United States like the plague when it comes to exit nodes, but that's just me.

That's what I was thinking too, thanks for the confirmation!

France is kind of iffy on free speech. Luxembourg, I have no idea - that's new since I left.

That's pretty new, yes.

Best, -Gordon M.

Thanks!

Eric