Re: [tor-relays] Request for help - Tor legal FAQ
To make the FAQ as current and useful as possible, we want to make >> sure that we know about any legal issues that relay operators in the >> United States may have experienced over the past few years.
I understand the focus on USA, but wouldn't this be a good opportunity to add legal information about other countries as well?
It's fantastic idea, and we'd love to be able to do it. Unfortunately, all of our practicing lawyers are licensed in the United States, and we don't have the legal expertise to provide an FAQ like this on a country-by-country basis. :(
I understand the focus on USA, but wouldn't this be a good opportunity to add legal information about other countries as well?
It's fantastic idea, and we'd love to be able to do it. Unfortunately, all of our practicing lawyers are licensed in the United States, and we don't have the legal expertise to provide an FAQ like this on a country-by-country basis. :(
There are a lot of electronic freedom organizations in other countries, many of which have the legal resources to help with the FAQ. Might it be valuable to partner with some of those organizations, in creating a more international FAQ?
On 4/6/11 7:54 PM, Thomas Lowenthal wrote:
I understand the focus on USA, but wouldn't this be a good opportunity to add legal information about other countries as well?
It's fantastic idea, and we'd love to be able to do it. Unfortunately, all of our practicing lawyers are licensed in the United States, and we don't have the legal expertise to provide an FAQ like this on a country-by-country basis. :(
There are a lot of electronic freedom organizations in other countries, many of which have the legal resources to help with the FAQ. Might it be valuable to partner with some of those organizations, in creating a more international FAQ?
Ideally, those organizations should develop FAQs that are specific to their own countries' laws. They are welcome to use our FAQ as a starting point -- hopefully they'll even improve on what we've done -- and we'd be happy to link to those FAQs. EFF isn't in a good position to provide guidance about the legal situations in other countries, though. Laws vary quite a bit from place to place and can be very complex. We don't want to provide information for others to rely on if we don't have expertise in the laws involved. Best, Marcia
Hi, On 07.04.2011 06:14, Marcia Hofmann wrote:
There are a lot of electronic freedom organizations in other countries, many of which have the legal resources to help with the FAQ. Might it be valuable to partner with some of those organizations, in creating a more international FAQ? Ideally, those organizations should develop FAQs that are specific to their own countries' laws. They are welcome to use our FAQ as a starting point -- hopefully they'll even improve on what we've done -- and we'd be happy to link to those FAQs.
The most relevant law for Tor routers in Germany (or owned by Germans) is the Telemediengesetz (telemedia law), specifically §15: clearly prohibits to keep any user identifiable and usage data unless required for billing purposes http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/__15.html §8: equivalent to DMCA 512; there is no liability for services that (a) do not initiate the the transfer (b) does not select the recipient and (c) does not select or alter the content. http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/__8.html It would be nice to at least list those paragraphs in a section for Germany, and equally collect similar laws for other countries. You don't need a lawyer to locate such laws. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/
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