Hello, for a while now, I have been running a relay called torland at http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/router_detail.php?FP=db1af6477bb276b6ea5e72132...
I am a little bit bummed right now. After working on it for the past week, I finally had the stable flag, however, unannounced my relay went offline for a while. I had been checking it regularly and everything said it was running fine until it randomly popped up and said it had been offline for the last three hours. I restarted the software immediately however by the time it appeared again it had lost the stable flag. I am little bit annoyed right now because I had been working to get the stable flag for the last several days and finally had it, then the tor network https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/DB1AF6477BB276B6EA5E721326840... came out of nowhere and suddenly said it had been offline for the last three hours despite the fact that I had been checking it every few minutes before hand and it said it was operating normally. I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag? Thank you. I am sorry if I seem frustrated, however it’s a bummer to me that I would have the stable flag then it would just come out of the blue that it had been offline for three hours despite saying online and working fine during that time when I did check it.
Thank you very much.
Hello.
Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote:
I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag?
I think it is about 4 days but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
Gary.
On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary jaffacakemonster53@gmail.com wrote:
Hello.
Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote: I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag?
I think it is about 4 days
That's the HSDir flag: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524
but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).
A Stable relay must be either: * higher than the median weighted MTBF, or * have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.
As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.
Here are the details: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470
T
Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.
From: teor Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag
On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary jaffacakemonster53@gmail.com wrote: Hello.
Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote: I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag?
I think it is about 4 days
That's the HSDir flag: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524
but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).
A Stable relay must be either: * higher than the median weighted MTBF, or * have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.
As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.
Here are the details: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470
T
On 12 Apr 2018, at 01:33, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.
The thresholds vary on each directory authority. They are stable-uptime (~15 days) and stable-mtbf (~26 days) in this table: https://consensus-health.torproject.org/#flagthresholds Each figure is in seconds.
Your relay's uptime is listed in its descriptor, in its heartbeat messages, or on relay search.
Your relay's weighted MTBF is different on each directory authority. It isn't published by the directory authorities.
My advice: just keep your relay as stable as you can, and it will probably get Stable. If it doesn't after a month or so, try a more reliable provider.
Relay flags are chosen so clients get the best network experience. Missing a few flags for a while doesn't really matter.
T
From: teor Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag
On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary jaffacakemonster53@gmail.com wrote:
Hello.
Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind.
On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote: I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag?
I think it is about 4 days
That's the HSDir flag: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524
but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number.
Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF).
A Stable relay must be either:
- higher than the median weighted MTBF, or
- have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days.
As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable.
Here are the details: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470
T
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Thank you. What exactly does the stable flag do? I know what it means, the relay has been online for the last few days without significant interruption, which is why I lost it as I had the stable flag, I had had it before my computer froze for about two hours and I did not realize that had happened until it’s too late. I’m just hoping that it does not take too terribly long for my relay to regain the stable flag, what’ strange though it my relay seems to receive quite a lot of traffic when I do not have the stable flag as well, according to the relay software receiving hundreds of megabytes at a time, I thought only stable relays received bigger amounts of traffic.
Thank you very much.
From: teor Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 3:34 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag
On 12 Apr 2018, at 01:33, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way I can find out what the current weighted mbtf is? Thank you.
The thresholds vary on each directory authority. They are stable-uptime (~15 days) and stable-mtbf (~26 days) in this table: https://consensus-health.torproject.org/#flagthresholds Each figure is in seconds.
Your relay's uptime is listed in its descriptor, in its heartbeat messages, or on relay search.
Your relay's weighted MTBF is different on each directory authority. It isn't published by the directory authorities.
My advice: just keep your relay as stable as you can, and it will probably get Stable. If it doesn't after a month or so, try a more reliable provider.
Relay flags are chosen so clients get the best network experience. Missing a few flags for a while doesn't really matter.
T
From: teor Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:30 AM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay Stable Flag
On 11 Apr 2018, at 20:54, Gary jaffacakemonster53@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Relay Search is about can be about 3 hours behind. On 11 April 2018 at 08:46, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote: I am also wondering, does how long a relay is offline for after loosing the stable flag effect how long it takes for the relay to regain it’s stable flag? I think it is about 4 days That's the HSDir flag: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2524
but I am sure someone more knowledgeable can provide a more specific number. Stable is based on weighted mean time before failure (MTBF). A Stable relay must be either: * higher than the median weighted MTBF, or * have a weighted MTBF of more than 7 days. As a quick guide, your relay should be up for 1-2 weeks to get Stable. Here are the details: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2470 T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On 12 Apr 2018, at 10:12, Keifer Bly keifer.bly@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you. What exactly does the stable flag do? I know what it means, the relay has been online for the last few days without significant interruption, which is why I lost it as I had the stable flag, I had had it before my computer froze for about two hours and I did not realize that had happened until it’s too late. I’m just hoping that it does not take too terribly long for my relay to regain the stable flag, what’ strange though it my relay seems to receive quite a lot of traffic when I do not have the stable flag as well, according to the relay software receiving hundreds of megabytes at a time, I thought only stable relays received bigger amounts of traffic.
"Stable" if the router is suitable for long-lived circuits.
https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2248
Clients use stable relays for preemptive circuits, and circuits to long-lived ports.
T
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