-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On the nodes I run where I managed to get a SWIP-ed IP address I am already ignoring these automatically generated IP-Echelon abuse complaints. For the nodes which do not have SWIP-ed IP addresses (also a node at myLoc) I reluctantly activated the reduced policy. You can try to convince the providers to ignore these complaints but torrent abuse complaints usually make them force you to 'fix the problem'. Reduced policies make me feel like failing in some way but you are still contributing bandwidth and helping out the cause ;) On 11/21/2015 03:08 PM, Julien ROBIN wrote:

Hi,

2 years ago I had the same problem on french exit nodes. Once I set the reduced exit policy it was OK

Some providers simply ignore those mails but not all providers: my provider was suddenly (and without any comment) forwading to me hundreds of IP-Echelon mails and I understood that without solutions my 2 servers were going to be stopped by my provider soon or late.

IP-Echelon are just stupid robots, even with tens of emails sent to them, they may have no reaction at all. Very frustrating !

The ideal solution is to have a custom RIPE record for your(s) IP with your own abuse@xxx email box, and your own filter :) but you should have somthing like a company/firm number in order to do this.

Of course every abuse message should be answered at least once, but once tens of emails have been anwered to a robot without any reaction, it becomes fair to ignore the sender.

Good luck ! Best regards, Julien ROBIN

----- Mail original ----- De: "Riccardo Mori" <patacca@autistici.org> À: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Envoyé: Samedi 21 Novembre 2015 04:34:34 Objet: [tor-relays] IP-Echelon complains about claimed infringement

Hi everyone, It's almost a week that I am receiving dozens of "Notices of Claimed Infringement" a day from IP-Echelon, all equals, saying that they "are contacting" me "on behalf of Paramount Pictures Corporation (Paramount)" and asking me to remove the film in question that is being shared via bittorent (the port varies each time). The first time I wrote them that the ip address in question is a Tor exit node, I explained briefly what is Tor and that I can't do anything to help them. I also wrote to MyLoc (the ISP) saying pretty much the same. I wrote to IP-Echelon another time but they never replied. Usually I wouldn't care about them but this time MyLoc told me to "fix the problem or" they "will block" my "server". I modified the exit policy so now I am running the reduced one[1] That (in theory) should fix the problem but I would like to avoid the reduced policy. Is there anyone that had the same issues with IP-Echelon and can help me? Usually how do you handle those annoying auto generated reports?

Thanks, patacca

[1] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy

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Hi all, On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:04:14AM +0100, Martin Kepplinger wrote:

Those Mails just keep coming. I replied to hundreds of them and never heard back. They're a normal part of maintaining my exit relay :)

We also get several e-mails from IP-Echelon every day. When it started, we replied to the sender address, but that e-mail bounced with a note from GMail to the effect that too many message for this account were coming in. Next time, we additionally sent our reply to the other e-mail address mentioned in their mailings, copyright@ip-echelon.com, once more explaining that we are running a Tor exit node, and what this means. This is the reply we got: On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 10:51:06AM +0000, IP-Echelon Support wrote:

IP-Echelon Support Team, Oct 9, 10:51

Dear Digitalcourage e.V. Tor Team,

Thank you for contacting IP-Echelon. We appreciate the steps you have taken to ensure your network is not used to facilitate copyright infringement. At this time no further action is required.

Sincerely, IP-Echelon Support Team

We did not block anything for them, nor did we say so. So we took this e-mail as their acceptance of Tor exits. But why do they continue to send us notices? We can only assume that they have no control over their spam bot. Or maybe they just want to advertise the hottest titles from Paramount. We think it is safe to delete this kind of spam. The Digitalcourage Tor Team -- Digitalcourage e.V., Marktstr. 18, D-33602 Bielefeld, Germany Tel: +49-521-1639 1639 | Fax: +49-521-61172 | mail @digitalcourage .de https://digitalcourage.de | https://bigbrotherawards.de Vorratsdatenspeicherung? Nicht schon wieder! Unterstützen Sie unsere Verfassungsbeschwerde: https://digitalcourage.de/weg-mit-vds