FW: Relay unreachable by authorities (Was: Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime)
From: Keifer Bly Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:08 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: FW: [tor-relays] Relay unreachable by authorities (Was: Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) From: Keifer Bly Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:01 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: RE: [tor-relays] Relay unreachable by authorities (Was: Re:Questionon relay allowed downtime) That’s what’s strange. I have double checked the tor logs and the only warning that appears is the “tor cannot help you if you use it wrong” warning; that’s the only one that appears. I did some research, and according to https://serverfault.com/questions/145907/does-mac-os-x-throttle-the-rate-of-..., Mac os does have a maximum amount of network connections it does allow at once. To find mine out, I tried running this in terminal Launchctl limit maxfiles The return was this: maxfiles 256 unlimited. I tried attaching a photo of the output but got a message back saying it was held because it was too big (the file was about 6mb). I wonder if this would mean mac os only allows 256 connections at once? How could I modify my torrc file to not go over the max allowed connections by mac os and still be a useable relay? Thank you. From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 3:38 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Relay unreachable by authorities (Was: Re: Questionon relay allowed downtime) On 27 Apr 2018, at 08:23, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: My apologies. The fingerprint is DB1AF6477BB276B6EA5E72132684096EEE779D30 Here are the contents of my torc file (the isp beeng run from is Charter Communications, the only isp that is available where I live. You might want to use a pastebin service for large files. Or cut out all the commented stuff before posting your torrc. I do not remember applying any descriptor limit and do not see one here. The file descriptor limit is imposed by the OS. The default can be low. Here is how you can find out: Please check the logs for warnings and notices. Sometimes tor logs a warning when it starts up (for example, low file descriptors), and then the issue happens later. What’s strange is my internet connection is working fine and I am able to visit websites, making it not seem like it is overloaded. Tor requires thousands of simultaneous connections. Tor requires constant uptime. Internet browsing requires a few connections. It works when the network is interrupted. Seems strange. Does Charter have any strange policies against running tor relays (has anyone ever had a documented here problem with running a relay on Charter before)? Thank you. You should ask your ISP. T
On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:09, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
That’s what’s strange. I have double checked the tor logs and the only warning that appears is the “tor cannot help you if you use it wrong” warning; that’s the only one that appears.
Then the problem is probably with your router or ISP.
I did some research, and according to
https://serverfault.com/questions/145907/does-mac-os-x-throttle-the-rate-of-..., Mac os does have a maximum amount of network connections it does allow at once.
To find mine out, I tried running this in terminal
Launchctl limit maxfiles
The return was this:
maxfiles 256 unlimited.
These are the soft and hard limits.
I tried attaching a photo of the output but got a message back saying it was held because it was too big (the file was about 6mb).
You can copy and paste text from the terminal.
I wonder if this would mean mac os only allows 256 connections at once?
Tor increases the file limit when it starts up. If it fails, it logs a warning. If the limit is too low, it logs a warning. You don't see any warnings, therefore the problem isn't on your machine.
How could I modify my torrc file to not go over the max allowed connections by mac os and still be a useable relay?
You do not need to limit the number of connections. You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections. The problem is probably with your router or ISP. That's not really something we can help with. Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead. T
There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right. According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support , the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status? Thank you. From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 4:24 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable by authorities (Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:09, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: That’s what’s strange. I have double checked the tor logs and the only warning that appears is the “tor cannot help you if you use it wrong” warning; that’s the only one that appears. Then the problem is probably with your router or ISP. I did some research, and according to https://serverfault.com/questions/145907/does-mac-os-x-throttle-the-rate-of-..., Mac os does have a maximum amount of network connections it does allow at once. To find mine out, I tried running this in terminal Launchctl limit maxfiles The return was this: maxfiles 256 unlimited. These are the soft and hard limits. I tried attaching a photo of the output but got a message back saying it was held because it was too big (the file was about 6mb). You can copy and paste text from the terminal. I wonder if this would mean mac os only allows 256 connections at once? Tor increases the file limit when it starts up. If it fails, it logs a warning. If the limit is too low, it logs a warning. You don't see any warnings, therefore the problem isn't on your machine. How could I modify my torrc file to not go over the max allowed connections by mac os and still be a useable relay? You do not need to limit the number of connections. You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections. The problem is probably with your router or ISP. That's not really something we can help with. Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead. T
On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right.
According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support
, the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status?
Sorry, that's not possible.
You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections.
T
What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you. Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right.
According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support
, the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status?
Sorry, that's not possible.
You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections.
T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On 27 Apr 2018, at 14:01, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you.
Please read people's replies before asking the same questions again:
Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right.
According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support
, the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status?
Sorry, that's not possible.
You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections.
T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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My apologies. My router can produce up to 866mb per second, so it should be fast enough. I’ll just see what happens. I am running it off a wireless connection so could that have something to do with it? From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:44 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable by authorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On 27 Apr 2018, at 14:01, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you. Please read people's replies before asking the same questions again: Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote: On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right. According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support , the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status? Sorry, that's not possible. You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections. T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 22:03 -0700, Keifer Bly wrote:
My apologies. My router can produce up to 866mb per second, so it should be fast enough. I’ll just see what happens.
I am running it off a wireless connection so could that have something to do with it?
Again, as you were previously told, the issue isn't speed, it's how many simultaneous connections the router can support. Here is an idea, try running it as a bridge and see if you are able to get everything working that way,. Or you can just setup your relay on a VPS or Cloud Instance. R/. Rock
From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:44 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable by authorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime)
On 27 Apr 2018, at 14:01, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you.
Please read people's replies before asking the same questions again:
Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead.
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote:
On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote:
There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right.
According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many- devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support , the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status? Sorry, that's not possible.
You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections.
T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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How would I set up an obfuscated bridge on osx via homebrew? Thank you. From: Rock Rockenhaus Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:41 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable byauthorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 22:03 -0700, Keifer Bly wrote: My apologies. My router can produce up to 866mb per second, so it should be fast enough. I’ll just see what happens. I am running it off a wireless connection so could that have something to do with it? Again, as you were previously told, the issue isn't speed, it's how many simultaneous connections the router can support. Here is an idea, try running it as a bridge and see if you are able to get everything working that way,. Or you can just setup your relay on a VPS or Cloud Instance. R/. Rock From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:44 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable by authorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On 27 Apr 2018, at 14:01, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you. Please read people's replies before asking the same questions again: Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote: On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right. According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support , the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status? Sorry, that's not possible. You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections. T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Please send me the instructions for doing that and I will try that if my relay continues to struggle. Thank you. From: Rock Rockenhaus Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:41 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable byauthorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 22:03 -0700, Keifer Bly wrote: My apologies. My router can produce up to 866mb per second, so it should be fast enough. I’ll just see what happens. I am running it off a wireless connection so could that have something to do with it? Again, as you were previously told, the issue isn't speed, it's how many simultaneous connections the router can support. Here is an idea, try running it as a bridge and see if you are able to get everything working that way,. Or you can just setup your relay on a VPS or Cloud Instance. R/. Rock From: teor Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:44 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] FW: Relay unreachable by authorities(Was:Re:Questiononrelay allowed downtime) On 27 Apr 2018, at 14:01, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: What would be your advise for not forever being stuck with an unstable relay? Thank you. Please read people's replies before asking the same questions again: Perhaps you should run a bridge rather than a relay. Or get a better router. Or run your relay remotely on a cheap VPS instead. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2018, at 8:27 PM, teor <teor2345@gmail.com> wrote: On 27 Apr 2018, at 09:42, Keifer Bly <keifer.bly@gmail.com> wrote: There are no warnings with the tor software regarding the maximum network connections. Perhaps it is my router (A Netgear Orbi Wifi Router, all wireless);. I’ve noticed that my router does sometimes drop my connection then bring it back randomly so you might be right. According to my research https://kb.netgear.com/31097/How-many-devices-can-my-Orbi-system-support , the orbi router does have a maximum amount of devices it allows to be using it’s connection at once, depending on what they are using it for. I am wondering, how could I edit my torrc to only allow the number of connections my router would allow and still eventually gain respectable status? Sorry, that's not possible. You can not modify your torrc file to limit the number of connections. T _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Keifer Bly:
Please send me the instructions for doing that and I will try that if my relay continues to struggle. Thank you.
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