Hi all, I doubled my max / burst speed values for my relay a few days ago. Unfortunately the new values are displayes in the statistic but not used at all. Does anyone have a suggestion for me how to get more work :-) ? Thanks and cheers -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Sebastian Urbach -------------------------------------------------------- Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines. -------------------------------------------------------- Bertrand Arthur William Russell (1872-1970), British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
Hi Sebastian. Clients pick the relays that they use based on estimates from the bandwidth authorities of a relay's capacity. These tend to change very gradually so it may take a while to see more traffic. Thanks for bumping your relay's capacity! -Damian On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Sebastian Urbach <sebastian@urbach.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I doubled my max / burst speed values for my relay a few days ago. Unfortunately the new values are displayes in the statistic but not used at all.
Does anyone have a suggestion for me how to get more work :-) ?
Thanks and cheers
-- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely
Sebastian Urbach
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Hi all, Yesterday I added this post in my technical blog: http://blog.minibofh.org/?p=203 It works like a charm. Search for VBTorOpenBSD relay in http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ and you can see how fine it works. I´ve tried to be so clear and explanatory (I´ve added even some screenshots) but anyway, feel free to feedback. I hope it´s a useful doc for the community, because is a very cheap/easy/fast method to create a Tor relay just using a regular internet connection and a popular an easy virtualization solution as VirtualBox is. :D
Am Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:40:45 -0700 schrieb Damian Johnson <atagar1@gmail.com>: Hi Damian,
Hi Sebastian. Clients pick the relays that they use based on estimates from the bandwidth authorities of a relay's capacity. These tend to change very gradually so it may take a while to see more traffic.
Thanks for bumping your relay's capacity! -Damian
You are very welcome, i help wherever i can. Can you specify "a while" a little bit ? Are we talking about weeks, months ? Im working with the new settings nearly 3 weeks right now an nothing seems to be changing at all ... Cheers -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Sebastian Urbach -------------------------------------------------------- Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines. -------------------------------------------------------- Bertrand Arthur William Russell (1872-1970), British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
Hi Sebastian, do you have Accounting enabled in your torrc file? Although even with AccountingMax your relay should run with its Bandwith settings, until the Accounting Options are met. Is your relay a middle or exit node? Cheers Andreas Reich On 27.09.2011 15:39, Sebastian Urbach wrote:
Am Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:40:45 -0700 schrieb Damian Johnson<atagar1@gmail.com>:
Hi Damian,
Hi Sebastian. Clients pick the relays that they use based on estimates from the bandwidth authorities of a relay's capacity. These tend to change very gradually so it may take a while to see more traffic.
Thanks for bumping your relay's capacity! -Damian
You are very welcome, i help wherever i can. Can you specify "a while" a little bit ? Are we talking about weeks, months ? Im working with the new settings nearly 3 weeks right now an nothing seems to be changing at all ...
Cheers
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Am Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48:10 +0200 schrieb Andreas Reich <reich.andi@online.de>: Hi Andreas,
do you have Accounting enabled in your torrc file? Although even with AccountingMax your relay should run with its Bandwith settings, until the Accounting Options are met.
No, i dont.
Is your relay a middle or exit node?
Middle node. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Sebastian Urbach -------------------------------------------------------- Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines. -------------------------------------------------------- Bertrand Arthur William Russell (1872-1970), British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
well, i dont know exactly but since there are more middle then exit nodes maybe there is no need for larger bandwiths ... My middle node has a maxbandwith of 250 KBytes and isnt under full load either. So far i dont have any ideas why your node dont use the full bandwith ... sorry greetings Andreas Am 27.09.2011 16:07, schrieb Sebastian Urbach:
Am Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48:10 +0200 schrieb Andreas Reich<reich.andi@online.de>:
Hi Andreas,
do you have Accounting enabled in your torrc file? Although even with AccountingMax your relay should run with its Bandwith settings, until the Accounting Options are met. No, i dont.
Is your relay a middle or exit node? Middle node.
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Andreas Reich <reich.andi@online.de> wrote:
well, i dont know exactly but since there are more middle then exit nodes maybe there is no need for larger bandwiths ...
My middle node has a maxbandwith of 250 KBytes and isnt under full load either.
So far i dont have any ideas why your node dont use the full bandwith ... sorry
greetings Andreas
Am 27.09.2011 16:07, schrieb Sebastian Urbach:
Am Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48:10 +0200 schrieb Andreas Reich <reich.andi@online.de>:
Hi Andreas,
do you have Accounting enabled in your torrc file? Although even with AccountingMax your relay should run with its Bandwith settings, until the Accounting Options are met.
No, i dont.
Is your relay a middle or exit node?
Middle node.
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I can't speak for others, those with large amounts of BW usage or even those with lower BW usage, but I know I never in the past 2 years have never come close to using my available bandwidth. I maybe wrong in this assumption, but I am thinking , at least now, that there are certain nodes that dont get a large amount of traffic like they used to, that the BW is more distributed among those nodes that are available. Hopefully someone will jump in and clarify this better.
Am Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:24:07 -0500 schrieb Jon <torance.ca@gmail.com>: Hi,
I can't speak for others, those with large amounts of BW usage or even those with lower BW usage, but I know I never in the past 2 years have never come close to using my available bandwidth.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that information.
I maybe wrong in this assumption, but I am thinking , at least now, that there are certain nodes that dont get a large amount of traffic like they used to, that the BW is more distributed among those nodes that are available.
What makes me suspicious is the fact that the usage stays exactly at the amount which i configured when i started the relay. During the first days there was clearly a testing period if my relay could take that load, probably from the authority servers or so. I concluded that there would be another test period if somebody changes his traffic values, but never happened as far as i can tell.
Hopefully someone will jump in and clarify this better.
Would be great. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Sebastian Urbach -------------------------------------------------------- Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines. -------------------------------------------------------- Bertrand Arthur William Russell (1872-1970), British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
I run 2 middle nodes, one at 150KB/300KB and the other at 100KB/200KB. Both running what ever is the latest stable version of Tor (0.2.2.33 at this writing). The 150KB/300KB node (Linux i686) occasionally spikes to the specified 150KB/sec, but 40% - 50% utilization is more typical. The 100KB/200KB node (Win7 x86_64) never gets to the specified 100KB/sec of traffic. Either there is simply not enough traffic to saturate all available middle nodes or Tor's node selection algorithm is, um, sub-optimal. Also, I have come to distrust TorStatus. Why? Because difference sites will have different numbers while supposedly monitoring the same network. One of my nodes is currently showing an Observed bandwidth of 10KB (yes, ten) at torstatus.blutmagie.de while the same node is showing an Observed 83KB at torstatus.all.de. Don't take the reported values as gospel. -----Original Message----- From: "Jon" <torance.ca@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:24pm To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] max / burst speed On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Andreas Reich <reich.andi@online.de> wrote:
well, i dont know exactly but since there are more middle then exit nodes maybe there is no need for larger bandwiths ...
My middle node has a maxbandwith of 250 KBytes and isnt under full load either.
So far i dont have any ideas why your node dont use the full bandwith ... sorry
greetings Andreas
Am 27.09.2011 16:07, schrieb Sebastian Urbach:
Am Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48:10 +0200 schrieb Andreas Reich <reich.andi@online.de>:
Hi Andreas,
do you have Accounting enabled in your torrc file? Although even with AccountingMax your relay should run with its Bandwith settings, until the Accounting Options are met.
No, i dont.
Is your relay a middle or exit node?
Middle node.
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I can't speak for others, those with large amounts of BW usage or even those with lower BW usage, but I know I never in the past 2 years have never come close to using my available bandwidth. I maybe wrong in this assumption, but I am thinking , at least now, that there are certain nodes that dont get a large amount of traffic like they used to, that the BW is more distributed among those nodes that are available. Hopefully someone will jump in and clarify this better. _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
I run 2 middle nodes, one at 150KB/300KB and the other at 100KB/200KB.
Then there is the question of just what is the correct range of burst values to use. In a former life, working with real network hardware, the burst setting was definitely NOT 2x the average rate. It was more like 1.08x. It had to do with the shaping method in use and the time period it averaged over. I can't seem to find the links at Cisco. Setting it too high did nothing as the averager clamped in anyways. Too low guaranteed other traffic but needlessly choked the shaped traffic. Just right kept things bursty enough to stream nicely as needed. No idea what shaping algorithm Tor uses, nor any clue on recommended burst ratios under said algorithm. Anyone???.
I run 2 middle nodes, one at 150KB/300KB and the other at 100KB/200KB. [snip]
No idea what shaping algorithm Tor uses, nor any clue on recommended burst ratios under said algorithm. Anyone???.
FWIW, the example config file ("torrc.sample") includes these lines: ## Define these to limit how much relayed traffic you will allow. Your ## own traffic is still unthrottled. Note that RelayBandwidthRate must ## be at least 20 KB. #RelayBandwidthRate 100 KB # Throttle traffic to 100KB/s (800Kbps) #RelayBandwidthBurst 200 KB # But allow bursts up to 200KB/s (1600Kbps)
Hi, You can find my statistics at: http://torstatus.all.de/router_detail.php?FP=3e50c8a6f7b7e10398bfc43a3f8108d... My config file is enclosed to this mail. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Sebastian Urbach -------------------------------------------------------- Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines. -------------------------------------------------------- Bertrand Arthur William Russell (1872-1970), British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.
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