Hi thanks for the answers. I understand your answers. I can not agree or disagree because I have no idea about it so I believe you and I wont do Relay with VPN :)

I am using VPN all the time and I wanted to try run relay.... what you say make sense, so for the time I try, i'll disconnect VPN. I just want to see that my internet is good enough to run it  10/1  but as i've read in the instructions maybe bridge would be better for me ...

i have access to internet 120/10 so i could set up relay on that but i need a PC with linux and remote control so getting complicated ...

first try out what i have, if cool, later try more and more :)

I love the concept of tor, I'd like to promote it :)

question: can be laptop ? i think why not, but maybe i'm wrong

thanks for helps :)

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Hi everyone, first time ever using mailing lists. Please let me know if something I'm doing wrong.

I'd like to run a middle relay.  I'm using Linux mint 19

The question. Can i set up relay through VPN? (nordvpn)  Or if i want relay i have to stop using vpn?   Thank you for help

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Hello,

Thanks for your interest in running a relay.

You say you want to run a middle relay, why do you want to run it behind a VPN in this case? Middle relays get no abuse complaints or anything as they can not be used as exit points. Maybe you can explain to us why you think you need to run your middle relay behind a VPN, do you have a particular reason? Because for Tor running a relay behind a VPN is not a

• on security or privacy at all, instead it just complicates things.

Secondly, if you have justified reason to still want to use a VPN on a middle relay, here are some things you need to take into consideration as well as disadvantages:

• you will have higher latency;
• the bandwidth of your relay will be of the speed of the VPN itself,

and shared VPN usually are slow for high grade server connections that run 24x7 with constant bandwidth usage;

• when the VPN tunnel will fail, due to an endpoint problem or internet

connectivity problem or route to destination problem, etc., the relay will update its descriptor with the real IP address instead of the VPN address, and when the VPN tunnel connects again change again and so on until clients will be confused. One way around this is for your to specify 'Address' in torrc and bind to explicit <address>:<port>.

• you don't need just any VPN, you need a VPN with a public and static

IP address, so that you can actually open ports on that IP address applications can bind and listen to certain ports. A normal shared VPN that just changes the IP address for browsing is not sufficient, because that does not assign a public static IP address directly.

There are VPN services out there that offer public and static IP addresses, but they are more expensive.

• you should tell the VPN provider that you plan to use the maximum

available bandwidth 24x7, because all say it's unlimited because they think "nobody will use that much", but when running Tor relays this is not true.