Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules. I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? I have checked my ip on various lists and it seems two rarely used lists have a ban on a group of numbers from my isp, but not my number specifically. I have been using my bank for years from this connection, now i seem to be blocked and it coincides with starting to run a tor and i2p relays. I have tried to access the site from different software but it just hangs. The bank claim they are not blocking me. Anyone else had this type of problem? Brian.
Brian Henderson via tor-relays wrote on 10/14/25 00:54:
Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules.
I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? I have checked my ip on various lists and it seems two rarely used lists have a ban on a group of numbers from my isp, but not my number specifically. I have been using my bank for years from this connection, now i seem to be blocked and it coincides with starting to run a tor and i2p relays. I have tried to access the site from different software but it just hangs. The bank claim they are not blocking me. Anyone else had this type of problem?
Yes, abundantly. Here in Italy if you run even a non exit node you can't connect to many government or public service sites. Bye, Marco -- https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/A4E74410D83705EEFF24BC265DE2B...
On 13.10.2025 22:54 Brian Henderson via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote:
Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules. I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? I have checked my ip on various lists and it seems two rarely used lists have a ban on a group of numbers from my isp, but not my number specifically. I have been using my bank for years from this connection, now i seem to be blocked and it coincides with starting to run a tor and i2p relays. I have tried to access the site from different software but it just hangs. The bank claim they are not blocking me. Anyone else had this type of problem? Brian.
Can you run a traceroute with tcp port 443 to your bank? I've seen some sites that blocked just all IPs that are related to tor, no need to run an exit to be affected by such bans. -- kind regards Marco Send spam to abfall1760388889@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de
On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:54:49PM +0000, Brian Henderson via tor-relays wrote:
Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules.
Welcome!
I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? [ ... ] Anyone else had this type of problem?
Yes, it is very common, even if you run a non-exit relay. [type-of-relayes] warns about it, I recommend you read it. The same issue was raised in the past, see for example my thread on this list [21270] or another on the forum [15280]. They are a couple of years old, but AFAIK nothing changed since then. You can work around the block by changing your IP address, if you have a dynamic IP it should be possible by reconnecting your modem. If you can't change your IP, then you have to switch off your relay and just wait, but it may take a few months for blacklists to notice. [types-of-relays]: https://community.torproject.org/relay/types-of-relays/ [21270]: https://archive.torproject.org/websites/lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-r... [15280]: https://forum.torproject.org/t/user-experiences-with-isps-blocking-relays/15... -- Eldalië My public key is attached. Please, use it and provide me yours!
On 10/13/25 17:54, Brian Henderson via tor-relays wrote:
Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules.
I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? I have checked my ip on various lists and it seems two rarely used lists have a ban on a group of numbers from my isp, but not my number specifically. I have been using my bank for years from this connection, now i seem to be blocked and it coincides with starting to run a tor and i2p relays. I have tried to access the site from different software but it just hangs. The bank claim they are not blocking me. Anyone else had this type of problem? Yes, I've seen it. The bank is probably being truthful when they say that "they" are not blocking you; rather, they likely subscribe to a 3rd party blocklist that includes tor relays.You can try complaining to the blocklist maintainer, but I've found it to be more expeditious to just use a VPN when accessing those sites.
-- -John Thompson (johndthompson@gmail.com) Appleton WI USA
For individuals that run a Tor relay from their home network, I would recommend running a Bridge (OBFS, Snowflake, or HTTP) to avoid these very issues. On Saturday, October 25, 2025 at 01:45:24 PM MDT, John Thompson via tor-relays <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org> wrote: On 10/13/25 17:54, Brian Henderson via tor-relays wrote:
Hi, first time using this group so I hope I am not braking any rules.
I wanted to ask others if they have noticed themselves getting blocked from certain sites (such as banks) because they are running a tor relay? I have checked my ip on various lists and it seems two rarely used lists have a ban on a group of numbers from my isp, but not my number specifically. I have been using my bank for years from this connection, now i seem to be blocked and it coincides with starting to run a tor and i2p relays. I have tried to access the site from different software but it just hangs. The bank claim they are not blocking me. Anyone else had this type of problem? Yes, I've seen it. The bank is probably being truthful when they say that "they" are not blocking you; rather, they likely subscribe to a 3rd party blocklist that includes tor relays.You can try complaining to the blocklist maintainer, but I've found it to be more expeditious to just use a VPN when accessing those sites.
-- -John Thompson (johndthompson@gmail.com) Appleton WI USA _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list -- tor-relays@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to tor-relays-leave@lists.torproject.org
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