Re: [tor-relays] Is there a reason for all exit nodes being public?

9 Dec 2016


      Again, I think I was quite clear on that: I don't care. I'm not using
Tor to hide anything from Facebook, and I'm quite aware that any data
Facebook can touch is recorded and I assume it is or will be published.
That's not acceptable to everyone but it's fine for me in many cases.
Even here, Tor helps because when you login to Facebook via the
hidden service, and then create a New Identity and continue browsing
other sites, Facebook can no longer associate my general web surfing
with my Facebook account, so suddenly I am in control of what data I
provide to Facebook rather than Facebook collecting anything and
everything they can.
If you have a different threat model, that's fine, use Tor and the
internet appropriate to your needs.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016, at 00:22, Duncan Guthrie wrote:
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Well, apart from using Facebook...
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On 8 December 2016 7:51:09 am GMT+00:00, Dave Warren
davew@hireahit.com wrote:
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I agree 100%. And yet, it's still useful for those who don't have
anything to fear from using Tor, but still want the privacy and
security from the last mile.
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On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 23:45, Duncan Guthrie wrote:
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The problem with Facebook is that their policies on real names
somewhat goes against hiding from a repressive regime. Their terms
and conditions mandate that they kick people who use pseudonyms, and
make fellow Facebook users rat on each other.
If I was an activist I would be wary of using it on or off Tor at
all. If I am going to be harassed for using Facebook, it's probably
unsafe to use Tor altogether. It isn't worth the risk, except in a
very limited manner.
I think the hidden service in this case is just gesture politics.
It's not really for citizens in repressive regimes, but people who
have little to fear from using Tor.
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On 7 December 2016 3:20:05 pm GMT+00:00, Rana
ranaventures@gmail.com wrote:
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From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-bounces@lists.torproject.org]
 On Behalf Of heartsucker
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 5:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Is there a reason for all exit nodes
 being public?
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As one of the Tor users who connects to services where I have to
 use my real name (e.g., my banks), I think it's not helpful to
 make assumptions about everyone's use case. Part of why I use Tor
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keep my ISPs from snooping on what I'm doing, and it's possible
 some of these millions of facebook users are doing the same.
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We will never know the breakdown of the Facebook users by the
reason why they use Tor. However, surely many of them are under
repressive regimes and do not want their ass kicked for what they
write on Facebook. Protecting them is fine purpose and anyhow, Tor
has no control over how people use the network and certainly not
over why they use it.
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Rana
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