[tor-relays] Re: Question about middle relays and common web usage annoyances

-- ndub On 25/12/2024 08:29, Richie via tor-relays wrote: > Hi, tierce, > > can confirm (germany), and afaik a known issue for quite a long time > now. Middle node here, too, and i remember being quite pissed since > during the covid heydays, most of the official governmental sites were > unreachable from an IP used for a relay. Same goes for communal sites. I > asked for a fix once (don't remember where) and received an answer so > clearly untouched by any understanding of tech and problems, i immedialy > gave up on escalating it further. My guess is "some standard blocklist > being part of the common ddos/attack protection noone knows the details > of". People from the institution don't know about details, people from > the hosting service would say "well, being more granular here will cost > more and attacs are in your own resbonsibility then", and nothing > happens. > > Migitation here: same as yours, luckily i can use an own proxy through > my server. Being in a webserver IP range, this one is blocked for > wikipedia editing and totally on some *cough* warez *cough* sites, so > yes, it is a bit annoying. > > The more relays/middle nodes, the better. But of course, one should warn > any interested person on these known side effects (and thell them/offer > them migitation methods). I'd be happy to hear success stories on > deblocking tor relay IPs, but i doubt that i'll see this happen. > > Thanks for running a relay, > Richie > > Am 24.12.24 um 08:07 schrieb gniping via tor-relays: >> Hello, >> >> I'm located in Belgium. >> >> I keep two small middle relays (no exit, not even guard)… >> >> https://metrics.torproject.org/ >> rs.html#details/89B4597169A9DBB171F0B4629C73C0FD55D767C7 >> >> https://metrics.torproject.org/ >> rs.html#details/07E3A0DC6AD4A5F07D1AF942626EBBF6CC0C72C7 >> >> If I browse the web using a common browser using the basic services of >> the ISPs (no torbrowser, no tor network) and at least since may 2023, >> I've observed that some websites (banks, federal services,…) simply >> don't respond when I want to open their webpages. >> >> If I use another IP from the same locations (using vpn, ssh proxy, >> whatever), those same websites simply respond and works without issue. >> >> If I switch back to the local ISP IP, those are unreachable, and so on. >> >> If I contact those ISPs or the banks IT services, for them there are no >> problem. >> >> For me, it's clear that hosting simple middle relays puts my ISPs IPs to >> some black lists handled by who knows who. >> >> If hosting basic middle relays is blocking common web services, it will >> be hard / nearly impossible for me to encourage family, friends or >> customers to host a basic middle relays. >> >> Maybe there is no need for more and more middle relays, I don't know. >> >> Does someone encounter the same kind of annoyances ? >> >> regards, >> tierce >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-relays mailing list -- tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to tor-relays-leave@lists.torproject.org > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list -- tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tor-relays-leave@lists.torproject.org