Re: [tor-relays] NHS UK blocking Tor?

-- no.thing_to-hide at cryptopathie dot eu 0x30C3CDF0, RSA 2048, 24 Mar 2014 0FF8 A811 8857 1B7E 195B 649E CC26 E1A5 30C3 CDF0 Bitmessage (no metadata): BM-2cXixKZaqzJmTfz6ojiyLzmKg2JbzDnApC On 15/04/14 18:57, Chris Whittleston wrote: > Thanks for all that Mick - I have already contacted them via that form and > received an initial response (pasted below) which isn't that encouraging. I > suspect the biggest challenge with this is going to be getting access to > the people who have influence or power to make a change. I've contacted > Ross also so we'll see if he has any insight or advice. > > Here is their reply: > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Dear Chris, > > > > Thank you for contacting the NHS Choices Service desk > > > > Unfortunately the issue you have raised seem to be to with your internet > connection as you are running a Tor middle relay. We are unable aid you on > this issue as no we have not has any reports of issue with connecting to > the site. If we have blocked Tor, it will be due to security reasons. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Kalpesh > > The NHS Choices Service Desk > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > I think the next step will be to find out if they can direct me to the > person who made the decision to block public Tor IPs in the first place, or > the policy/IT team who implemented it. I'll update when I have more. > > Chris > > > > On 15 April 2014 14:46, mick mbm@rlogin.net wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 23:37:35 +0100 >> Chris Whittleston csw34@cam.ac.uk allegedly wrote: >> >>> Can someone else running a relay from their home connection confirm >>> that they get an 'Access denied' error from http://www.nhs.uk? I've >>> checked with someone using the same ISP in the flat above me and they >>> seem able to access the site just fine, as can I via mobile internet >>> so I'm down to suspecting that they are blocking all Tor relay IPs. >>> This is the exact error I get: >>> Access DeniedYou don't have permission to access "http://www.nhs.uk/" >>> on this server. >>> >>> Reference #18.1f7f1002.1397514736.1fe2170c >>> The reference seems to change each time I visit. If this does turn >>> out to be them blocking Tor - advice on how to approach contacting >>> them to resolve this would be appreciated. >>> >> >> Confirmed. My (non-exit) relay in Amsterdam is blocked. Another >> (non-tor) server in Amsterdam is not blocked, nor are my non-tor >> servers in the UK, SanFrancisco or NYC blocked. >> >> As for getting this changed, that may be difficult. You could try >> contacting the site through the page at: >> http://www.nhs.uk/aboutNHSChoices/Pages/ContactUs.aspx >> and selecting the "I have experienced a problem accessing or using the >> website or some part of it" radio button and then commenting. You could >> contact the NHS at the (postal) address below. You could contact the >> DoH (Charles Massey) >> https://www.gov.uk/government/people/charlie-massey >> >> As evidence in favour of Tor's value, you could point to the "who uses >> Tor" page at https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en. You >> could usefully explain the obvious value of anonymity in browsing health >> related sites. >> >> And, since you appear to be in Cambridge, you could look for some >> support (and possible advice) from Ross Anderson >> (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/). You can bet that Ross uses Tor, and >> he almost certainly has experience in dealing with awkward parts of >> HMG. >> >> Best >> >> Mick >> >> ------------------------------------- >> NHS address >> >> NHS Connecting for Health >> Informatics Directorate >> Department of Health >> Princes Exchange >> Princes Square >> Leeds >> West Yorkshire >> LS1 4HY >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Mick Morgan >> gpg fingerprint: FC23 3338 F664 5E66 876B 72C0 0A1F E60B 5BAD D312 >> http://baldric.net >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >