Alison, can you please share a link to the results of 'user testing as well as research on usability, accessibility, and localization'? I most definitely welcome the idea of making Tor look modern (and would like to help if I can) but it would be good to see what standards the development team is following to get there.
I remember the 2018 redesign of Tor Metrics that prompted similar negative responses. Back then there was a giant quote taking up the top 1/3rd of the screen. Now half of my screen is covered with a large slogan that looks like a pornsite ad: "Browse privately. Explore freely.". At the bottom there is a header called "About Us" that is smaller than the others but the text under that header is enormous. Clicking "Documentation" at the very top takes me to the old white-green design. Etc.
Nobody deserves punishment by the way. You all deserve enormous kudos for working on Tor.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:39 AM Alison Macrina alison@torproject.org wrote:
Ralph Seichter:
- Matthew Finkel:
Please be respectful. The tone of this message is disrespectful of the time, effort, and skill that went into launching the new website. It's unfortunate you do not appreciate or like the new site, but that does not excuse you.
Disrespectful for you, maybe. I did not name names. Besides, I won't feign to care about time and effort spent when I consider the result not worth said time and effort. I don't hand out medals or diplomas for trying/participating. You probably get the gist. ;-)
I agree with Matthew that your email was very rude. Basic human decency is not "hand[ing] out medals or diplomas for trying/participating". Please do better. We are all working hard on Tor, many of us volunteers, and we should treat one another as community.
This new website is significantly better and more welcoming for the general population, rather than a small percentage of the population.
I respect your right to have that opinion, although I disagree. What metrics you believe to support your "significantly better" I don't know.
The redesign efforts were based on user testing as well as research on usability, accessibility, and localization. I am personally excited for how much easier it will be for our users to find what they're looking for, and how much easier it will be to translate this new site into many languages.
If you have suggestions for improving the new design, then please let us know.
I suggest reverting to the previous website design. That design was, IMO, "welcoming for the general population" in the sense that it treated visitors as intelligent beings, capable of reading more than a few buzzwords. I find it alarming that a certain school of web designers these days seem to think their audience has the attention span of fruit flies. From where I am standing, *that* is disrespectful.
-Ralph
Okay, you are entitled to your opinion as well. Please also be kind. And finally, this is a mailing list for tor-relays. Please stay on topic.
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