Registering special-use domain names of peer-to-peer name systems with IETF
Dear all, Together with Matthias Wachs and Hellekin Wolf, I'm preparing an IESG approval request for the reservation of special-use domain names for P2P networks according to RFC 6761. The goal is to reserve .onion, .exit, .i2p, .gnu and .zkey (so that they don't become ordinary commercial TLDs at some point) and to at the same time document their use and how they should be processed for the broader community. I've attached the current draft which we plan to submit shortly (unless, of course, we receive insightful comments that require major revisions). As two of the five pTLDs involve Tor, we would be happy for feedback from the Tor developer community. Happy hacking! Christian
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Christian Grothoff <christian@grothoff.org> wrote:
Dear all,
Together with Matthias Wachs and Hellekin Wolf, I'm preparing an IESG approval request for the reservation of special-use domain names for P2P networks according to RFC 6761. The goal is to reserve .onion, .exit, .i2p, .gnu and .zkey (so that they don't become ordinary commercial TLDs at some point) and to at the same time document their use and how they should be processed for the broader community.
I've attached the current draft which we plan to submit shortly (unless, of course, we receive insightful comments that require major revisions). As two of the five pTLDs involve Tor, we would be happy for feedback from the Tor developer community.
Hi, Christian. This is a fine idea! I would suggest additionally reserving a new namespace for future protocols? After all, it would be a fine thing to have a way for the next Tor- I2P-, or GnuNet-like system to be able to use a domain of this type with minimal troubles. I also worry a bit that people who might otherwise favor this proposal will be leery of establishing the precedent that if you make a P2P network that uses a new virtual TLD, you can officially own that TLD forever for free. *I* think that's a fine rule, but I wonder whether others will agree, or want some criteria for how to handle situations of this kind in the future. (Also, for what it's worth, Tor hasn't supported .noconnect since mid-2009.) yrs, -- Nick
Nick Mathewson wrote:
establishing the precedent that if you make a P2P network that uses a new virtual TLD, you can officially own that TLD forever for free
Well, if the barrier-to-entry is ten(ish) years of hardcore development, a robust research community, and hundreds of thousands of daily users, then that might be an acceptable precedent to set :-D Though I am slightly saddened that I'll never own "notatrap.onion" ;-) ~Griffin PS: thanks for doing this, Christian! -- Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. PGP: 0xD9D4CADEE3B67E7AB2C05717E331FD29AE792C97 OTR: saint@jabber.ccc.de
Christian Grothoff:
Dear all,
Together with Matthias Wachs and Hellekin Wolf, I'm preparing an IESG approval request for the reservation of special-use domain names for P2P networks according to RFC 6761. The goal is to reserve .onion, .exit, .i2p, .gnu and .zkey (so that they don't become ordinary commercial TLDs at some point) and to at the same time document their use and how they should be processed for the broader community.
I've attached the current draft which we plan to submit shortly (unless, of course, we receive insightful comments that require major revisions). As two of the five pTLDs involve Tor, we would be happy for feedback from the Tor developer community.
Happy hacking!
Christian
Dear Christian, I've given it an edit pass - I've included the original, a unified diff and my modified version. All the best, Jacob
participants (4)
-
Christian Grothoff -
Griffin Boyce -
Jacob Appelbaum -
Nick Mathewson