FreeNote's overview is almost the same as what I'm thinking. I've used GTK and GStreamer for Video in the past and implemented mobile and desktop IPTV applications using Qt, SDL, Ogg, Theora, and Vorbis. This VOIP over Tor idea came to mind after developing a prototype VOIP application using Qt with custom protocols and encryption. The users generated their own AES keys and added them to the VOIP client through the user-interface. The VOIP server didn't do any encryption/decryption only the client and only public-key information was allowed to be transmitted to peers, but the packets did go through central servers. It wasn't decentralized and no anonymity was in the design. It would be nice to have this work over Tor. I would like to focus on this task if possible. --TZ -------- Original Message -------- From: Griffin Boyce <griffin@cryptolab.net> Apparently from: tor-dev-bounces@lists.torproject.org To: tor-dev@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-dev] Decentralized VOIP (or video chat) over Tor Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:14:09 -0400

This is similar, though not *quite* the same. A while back ioerror released FreeNote[1], which makes it easier to broadcast audio and video on a hidden service. This is a pretty cool idea and works pretty well. AND it should be pointed out that two one-way conversations can be a two-way conversation by virtue of just sharing the links over OTR [2].

Scott Ainslie and I discussed the possibility of taking that basic two-way conversation hidden service concept and making a GUI for it with Glade+GTK. Unfortunately, neither of us really have the time or expertise for this endeavor. I got as far as wireframing some ideas before going face-first into developing a more time-sensitive project [3]. I'd love it if someone actually did this and released their prototype as free software. There are way too many issues with centralized services like Skype and Google Hangouts.[4]

best, Griffin

[1] https://github.com/ioerror/freenote [2] Of course, if someone shares the links further, there can be privacy issues. [3] Satori: https://github.com/glamrock/Satori [4] and jitsi never recognizes my fucking microphones =/

On 2014-08-15 21:43, Jordan wrote:

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Hi, terryz,

Thanks for the idea! Today I was actually wondering if *video* were possible, too. :-D

Guardian project has [Ostel](https://guardianproject.info/apps/ostel/). Is that what you're wanting? If not, was there a feature you were wanting from Ostel or another application that has features that Ostel doesn't?

As for "decentralized," I think the whole point of tor is that tor itself is decentralized. Check out [Running a relay] (https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en) to see how this works.

Again, thanks for the input! :-D

On Friday, August 15, 2014 05:53:44 PM terryz@Safe-mail.net wrote:

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Hi,

I'm interested an anonymous decentralized VOIP network on Tor. All traffic routed through Tor. Every Tor user being an optional server for PTT or Continuous Speech.

How feasible does this sound?

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