On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Robert Ransom rransom.8774@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:15:43 +0000 Jacob Appelbaum jacob@appelbaum.net wrote:
I think that we should probably setup a hidden service on each one and ensure that we can remotely administrate them with the consent of the testers. This will help us to perhaps make some of these choices differently down the road.
The Tor Project cannot ship a backdoored product of any kind, *ever*. No one would ever trust *any* of our hardware or software ever again, and rightly so.
Hi Robert,
I did not suggest a backdoor! I suggested a method of remotely helping a limited number of (alpha testing) users debug reach-ability issues with their consent. We've never tested tor-fw-helper in the wild and we have never deployed something like the Torouter, we're also discussing an alpha test deployment without any user friendly UI. It is totally reasonable to explain that we're willing to help this specific, special group of people out with the bumps that will appear along the way.
Please re-read what I wrote again and try to assume good faith FFS. Also, consider that if a user wasn't interested, we could simply not enable it. We're talking about hand flashing a bunch of devices, we're not talking about what we want to ship to every user on the planet someday. It's a bad idea to just mail off a bunch of hardware and hope for the best. We should provide some kind of support and help for the device during the alpha testing phase of the project.
All the best, Jake