Hello folks!
Hope everyone has had a fantastic beginning to the week.
I recently reviewed the English Tor Wikipedia page as per our conversation at the last meeting. All and all, it was accurate; there were probably some parts that were understated and others that were overstated, but there was nothing too glaring. I'm not sure who will be dealing with the changes, but I can chat with them as well if further information is needed.
I did have a few suggestions, though they mostly pertain to formatting and elaborating on existing content:
1. 'Tor Browser' header could use a more concise explanation and feature list
2. 'Third party applications' subheader could use some loving as you can see
3. 'Levels of Security' header - why is this a million miles below the browser section? Could use revisions as well
4. 'Tor Messenger' bar should be removed - as it's no longer current or reccomended, it would be better to not showcase it any longer.
If anyone had opinions or additions to this list feel free to mention them!
Thanks a lot, see you all tomorrow. 😊
-- jaruga
On 06/12/2018 03:57 PM, Celeste S. [jaruga] wrote:
Hello folks!
Hope everyone has had a fantastic beginning to the week.
I recently reviewed the English Tor Wikipedia page as per our conversation at the last meeting. All and all, it was accurate; there were probably some parts that were understated and others that were overstated, but there was nothing too glaring. I'm not sure who will be dealing with the changes, but I can chat with them as well if further information is needed.
Thanks for taking such an in-depth look at this!!!
I'm wondering how we might best put out a call for help on these edits. tor-project@ list seems like an obvious place. Maybe also good to include in the message that the non-English pages need some love.
Unless someone else wants to organize a sprint to do this? I think it's a really good idea but I don't have the time to take it on myself. :(
Alison
I did have a few suggestions, though they mostly pertain to formatting and elaborating on existing content:
- 'Tor Browser' header could use a more concise explanation and feature
list
'Third party applications' subheader could use some loving as you can see
'Levels of Security' header - why is this a million miles below the
browser section? Could use revisions as well
- 'Tor Messenger' bar should be removed - as it's no longer current or
reccomended, it would be better to not showcase it any longer.
If anyone had opinions or additions to this list feel free to mention them!
Thanks a lot, see you all tomorrow. 😊
-- jaruga
tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team
sorry to jump in, folks! ::puts on wikimedia hat:: i would not do a public call at all for help, because you're technically not supposed to edit your own page or have the institution or any one paid by an institution edit said page.
i would recommend me one person actually edit the page. you can organize all the edits in a separate place and then put them in. but if any pedantic editors suspect this was done by an affiliate, they will revoke the edits, etc.
i would recommend organizing here, and getting a handful of people to write the edits, then share back here, and then have one person s-l-o-w-l-y copy paste in so it doesn't look like spam or bot activity.
best! caroline
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Alison Macrina < alison@libraryfreedomproject.org> wrote:
On 06/12/2018 03:57 PM, Celeste S. [jaruga] wrote:
Hello folks!
Hope everyone has had a fantastic beginning to the week.
I recently reviewed the English Tor Wikipedia page as per our conversation at the last meeting. All and all, it was accurate; there were probably some parts that were understated and others that were overstated, but there was nothing too glaring. I'm not sure who will be dealing with the changes, but I can chat with them as well if further information is needed.
Thanks for taking such an in-depth look at this!!!
I'm wondering how we might best put out a call for help on these edits. tor-project@ list seems like an obvious place. Maybe also good to include in the message that the non-English pages need some love.
Unless someone else wants to organize a sprint to do this? I think it's a really good idea but I don't have the time to take it on myself. :(
Alison
I did have a few suggestions, though they mostly pertain to formatting and elaborating on existing content:
- 'Tor Browser' header could use a more concise explanation and feature
list
- 'Third party applications' subheader could use some loving as you can
see
- 'Levels of Security' header - why is this a million miles below the
browser section? Could use revisions as well
- 'Tor Messenger' bar should be removed - as it's no longer current or
reccomended, it would be better to not showcase it any longer.
If anyone had opinions or additions to this list feel free to mention
them!
Thanks a lot, see you all tomorrow. 😊
-- jaruga
tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team
tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team
On 06/14/2018 02:06 PM, Caroline Sinders wrote:
sorry to jump in, folks! ::puts on wikimedia hat:: i would not do a public call at all for help, because you're technically not supposed to edit your own page or have the institution or any one paid by an institution edit said page.
Hey Caroline,
I suggested tor-project@lists.torproject.org *because* it's a public mailing list. You think that's not sufficient to find an editor/editors who aren't officially affiliated with Tor?
i would recommend me one person actually edit the page. you can organize all the edits in a separate place and then put them in. but if any pedantic editors suspect this was done by an affiliate, they will revoke the edits, etc.
i would recommend organizing here, and getting a handful of people to write the edits, then share back here, and then have one person s-l-o-w-l-y copy paste in so it doesn't look like spam or bot activity.
best! caroline
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Alison Macrina <alison@libraryfreedomproject.org mailto:alison@libraryfreedomproject.org> wrote:
On 06/12/2018 03:57 PM, Celeste S. [jaruga] wrote: > Hello folks! > > Hope everyone has had a fantastic beginning to the week. > > I recently reviewed the English Tor Wikipedia page as per our > conversation at the last meeting. All and all, it was accurate; there > were probably some parts that were understated and others that were > overstated, but there was nothing too glaring. I'm not sure who will be > dealing with the changes, but I can chat with them as well if further > information is needed. Thanks for taking such an in-depth look at this!!! I'm wondering how we might best put out a call for help on these edits. tor-project@ list seems like an obvious place. Maybe also good to include in the message that the non-English pages need some love. Unless someone else wants to organize a sprint to do this? I think it's a really good idea but I don't have the time to take it on myself. :( Alison > > I did have a few suggestions, though they mostly pertain to formatting > and elaborating on existing content: > > 1. 'Tor Browser' header could use a more concise explanation and feature > list > > 2. 'Third party applications' subheader could use some loving as you can see > > 3. 'Levels of Security' header - why is this a million miles below the > browser section? Could use revisions as well > > 4. 'Tor Messenger' bar should be removed - as it's no longer current or > reccomended, it would be better to not showcase it any longer. > > If anyone had opinions or additions to this list feel free to mention them! > > Thanks a lot, see you all tomorrow. 😊 > > -- jaruga > > > _______________________________________________ > tor-community-team mailing list > tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org> > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team> > _______________________________________________ tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org <mailto:tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team <https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team>-- Caroline Sinders interaction designer, researcher, artist caroline-sinders.squarespace.com http://caroline-sinders.squarespace.com 713-203-0116
Oh sorry- I meant more organizing edits like this may technically break a Wikipedia rule on no paid edits or ppl editing under false pretenses, so a public call for edits could be seen by some wiki editors as a sticky gray area.
Mainly, and I apologize for this, a hold over from working for the Wikimedia Foundation has now made me an odd stickler for rules because I could see a crotchety admin saying/huffing “well, even non profits shouldn’t edit their own pages or get their volunteers to do it bx *bias* so ok I’m gonna revert all these recent edits.”
I’m sorry- that’s what I meant.
It should be fine, honestly, I just wanted to flag this in case the new edits got reverted.
On Jun 14, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Alison Macrina alison@libraryfreedomproject.org wrote:
On 06/14/2018 02:06 PM, Caroline Sinders wrote: sorry to jump in, folks! ::puts on wikimedia hat:: i would not do a public call at all for help, because you're technically not supposed to edit your own page or have the institution or any one paid by an institution edit said page.
Hey Caroline,
I suggested tor-project@lists.torproject.org *because* it's a public mailing list. You think that's not sufficient to find an editor/editors who aren't officially affiliated with Tor?
i would recommend me one person actually edit the page. you can organize all the edits in a separate place and then put them in. but if any pedantic editors suspect this was done by an affiliate, they will revoke the edits, etc.
i would recommend organizing here, and getting a handful of people to write the edits, then share back here, and then have one person s-l-o-w-l-y copy paste in so it doesn't look like spam or bot activity.
best! caroline
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Alison Macrina <alison@libraryfreedomproject.org mailto:alison@libraryfreedomproject.org> wrote:
On 06/12/2018 03:57 PM, Celeste S. [jaruga] wrote: Hello folks!
Hope everyone has had a fantastic beginning to the week.
I recently reviewed the English Tor Wikipedia page as per our conversation at the last meeting. All and all, it was accurate; there were probably some parts that were understated and others that were overstated, but there was nothing too glaring. I'm not sure who
will be
dealing with the changes, but I can chat with them as well if further information is needed.
Thanks for taking such an in-depth look at this!!!
I'm wondering how we might best put out a call for help on these edits. tor-project@ list seems like an obvious place. Maybe also good to include in the message that the non-English pages need some love.
Unless someone else wants to organize a sprint to do this? I think it's a really good idea but I don't have the time to take it on myself. :(
Alison
I did have a few suggestions, though they mostly pertain to formatting and elaborating on existing content:
- 'Tor Browser' header could use a more concise explanation and
feature
list
- 'Third party applications' subheader could use some loving as
you can see
- 'Levels of Security' header - why is this a million miles below the
browser section? Could use revisions as well
- 'Tor Messenger' bar should be removed - as it's no longer
current or
reccomended, it would be better to not showcase it any longer.
If anyone had opinions or additions to this list feel free to
mention them!
Thanks a lot, see you all tomorrow. 😊
-- jaruga
tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org
mailto:tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team
tor-community-team mailing list tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org mailto:tor-community-team@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-community-team
-- Caroline Sinders interaction designer, researcher, artist caroline-sinders.squarespace.com http://caroline-sinders.squarespace.com 713-203-0116
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