[Tor www-team] Just a download site

William Papper william at papper.me
Mon Mar 31 11:47:35 UTC 2014


I appreciate the suggestion for split testing, but we can't implement it in
a privacy-preserving way. I see three main issues:
1. It requires logging a lot of data on users. Even if we could find a
split testing that didn't log IPs, it still would log far more than we're
comfortable with.
2. The user is connecting to an external server which we likely have no
control over. Is it serving malicious JS to certain countries or covertly
changing download links to malicious versions of Tor? We don't know.
3. I don't think we should be implementing external code in a website like
this. Imagine if Turkey (which has been discussed previously) spoofed the
certificate for the split testing service or changed the IP it resolved to.
It would have free rein over the entire site.

Split testing is always good, but in this case it doesn't seem to be an
option.
As a starter basic page its pretty nice and simple.
very nice job

it breaks all the rules for a converting landing page but this can be
worked on later on.

better to start simple like it is and then improve through split testing.




On 31 March 2014 08:57, Moritz Süß <moritz at moritzsuess.de> wrote:

> Looks great! Simple enough for the common user, with all options available
> for advanced users.
>
> Regarding the donate button I'd opt for a separate button, which is more
> visibly distinguished. We want it to be noticed as much as possible, while
> keeping the design consistent.
>
> Am 31 Mar 2014 um 01:33 schrieb William Papper <william at papper.me>:
>
> The download site is nearly finished. The most current version can be
> accessed here: http://wpapper.github.io/tor-download-web/
>
> All that's left to implement is changing the URL of the download button
> when a dropdown is changed (which is implemented, but buggy) and the non-JS
> fallback (which should be very straightforward).
>
> Does anyone have any more feedback at this point? Styling still needs to
> be figured out, particularly the background color.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, William Papper <william at papper.me> wrote:
>
>> Ah, I apologize. Now I see what you're saying.
>>
>> I was referring to the latest version of the website in the GitHub repo.
>> Here's a screenshot of the page:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2014-03-29 at 9.31.08 PM.png>
>>
>> Does that seem good? Or should the donate button be separate?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Andrew Lewman <andrew at torproject.is>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 08:11:24PM -0400, william at papper.me wrote 2.6K
>>> bytes in 0 lines about:
>>> : That's my answer, then.
>>>
>>> Actually, what I meant is where do I see the mockup or image or to
>>> whatever you referred?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew
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