[Tor www-team] First set of technical requirements

Eric Schaefer omg at eric-schaefer.com
Wed Jan 8 20:10:28 UTC 2014


> I think this a nice idea on paper however in terms of an MVP (Minimal Viable Product) I think it would make sense, in my opinion, to aim for one release with graceful degradation. 

+1 on this. Let’s do this right, and let the pages degrade gracefully w/o javascript.


On Jan 8, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Rey Dhuny <rey at spcshp.com> wrote:

>> Maybe we could create 2 projects. One online with complete js and others things. The other project could be the  simple version for user without js and other things
>> 
> I think this a nice idea on paper however in terms of an MVP (Minimal Viable Product) I think it would make sense, in my opinion, to aim for one release with graceful degradation. 
> 
> We could then focus our efforts efficiently then after release we can look at different _release flavours_, so to speak. 
> 
> Just my 2p :)
> 
> Rey
> 
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> On 8 Jan 2014, at 19:51, ramiro tinoco <rowend at rowend.com> wrote:
> 
>> Maybe we could create 2 projects. One online with complete js and others things. The other project could be the  simple version for user without js and other things
>> 
>> El ene 8, 2014 10:00 a.m., "Silviu Riley" <silviu.riley at gmail.com> escribió:
>> I agree. Local files are much more secure than a local web server. Less attack profile for the computer starting TBB from USB for example.
>> 
>> Also less chance that something will fail (eg server fails to start). 
>> 
>> Silviu.
>> 
>> On Jan 8, 2014 10:12 AM, "Rey Dhuny" <rey at spcshp.com> wrote:
>> Sean Rafferty: 
>> 
>> > Just to clarify: technically tools like Jekyll or Sinatra could be used because the server can be started wherever the site files are located whether it’s a USB stick or a laptop, correct?
>> 
>> I am of the opinion that starting a local server on a USB stick adds a level of complexity compared to distributing a bunch of flat files that Jekyll/Middleman generate.
>> 
>> Rey
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>> On Wednesday, 8 January 2014 at 15:09, Sean Rafferty wrote:
>> 
>>> Just to clarify: technically tools like Jekyll or Sinatra could be used because the server can be started wherever the site files are located whether it’s a USB stick or a laptop, correct?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Lunar <lunar at torproject.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Sean Rafferty:
>>>>> Pardon my ignorance, but is the requirement for a static site a
>>>>> security concern or simply an ease-of-use issue?
>>>> 
>>>> Security concerns, ease to setup, ease of mirroring.
>>>> 
>>>>> Another dumb question, but when you say the site needs to work
>>>>> offline, do you mean people can view the content without a web
>>>>> server, or that it must run on a local instance of a web sever and not
>>>>> require things like google's cdn version of query?
>>>> 
>>>> Tor is used for censorship circumvention. Think about an USB stick with
>>>> the Tor Browser Bundle, and a copy of the website. The website should be
>>>> usable without requiring any access to the network so people can learn
>>>> how to use Tor to reach the wider Internet.
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