[tor-talk] tor-talk Digest, Vol 100, Issue 2
Ludovic CALLENS
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> 1. Is 2019.www.tpo a temporary domain? (nusenu)
> 2. Re: Is 2019.www.tpo a temporary domain? (Pili Guerra)
> 3. Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus (Tor Revolution)
> 4. Re: Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus (Pili Guerra)
> 5. Re: [tor-relays] Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
> (Herbert Karl Mathé)
> 6. Re: Tor diversity (was: Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus)
> (René Ladan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 16:08:00 +0000
> From: nusenu <nusenu-lists at riseup.net>
> To: tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
> Subject: [tor-talk] Is 2019.www.tpo a temporary domain?
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> Hi,
>
> while trying to solve some broken URLs on metrics.tpo
> the following question came up on the metrics-team ML:
>
> Is the 2019.www
> domain temporary and gone in 2020?
>
> (what is the recommended way to fix broken URLs
> so it does not break again soon?)
>
> --
> https://twitter.com/nusenu_
> https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 09:34:08 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Pili Guerra <pili at torproject.org>
> To: tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Is 2019.www.tpo a temporary domain?
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> Hi,
>
> Not sure if this has already been answered in the metrics-team mailing
> list but... the 2019.www is permanent and denotes content that was archived
> in 2019.
>
> We want to follow this scheme in general, any time we archive any website,
> to have the year it was archived during as the prefix.
>
> Hopefully that makes sense.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pili
> —
> Project Manager: Tor Browser, UX and Community teams
> pili at torproject dot org
> gpg 3E7F A89E 2459 B6CC A62F 56B8 C6CB 772E F096 9C45
>
> > On 1 May 2019, at 18:08, nusenu <nusenu-lists at riseup.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > while trying to solve some broken URLs on metrics.tpo
> > the following question came up on the metrics-team ML:
> >
> > Is the 2019.www
> > domain temporary and gone in 2020?
> >
> > (what is the recommended way to fix broken URLs
> > so it does not break again soon?)
> >
> > --
> > https://twitter.com/nusenu_
> > https://mastodon.social/@nusenu
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 07:43:24 +0000
> From: Tor Revolution <isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com>
> To: "tor-relays at lists.torproject.org"
> <tor-relays at lists.torproject.org>, "tor-talk at lists.torproject.org"
> <tor-talk at lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: [tor-talk] Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
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>
> Per your LinkedIn:
>
> You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United States
> which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence
> Community
> You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United States
> Navy's version of the National Security Agency
> You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I wonder
> why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor
>
> Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad that
> the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all of
> the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US Federal
> Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. You are probably trying
> to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one cares
> about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do it
> but obviously it's not a big issue!!! It's not a big issue to spin up our
> Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!!
>
> Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 10:10:44 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Pili Guerra <pili at torproject.org>
> To: tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Explain yourself Conrad Rockenhaus
> Message-ID: <F60A20C6-829B-4FB1-8FBE-D5A8E7CDBCB4 at torproject.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi,
>
> This is another reminder to please keep posts on-topic and civil.
>
> This is not the place for personal attacks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pili
> —
> Project Manager: Tor Browser, UX and Community teams
> pili at torproject dot org
> gpg 3E7F A89E 2459 B6CC A62F 56B8 C6CB 772E F096 9C45
>
> > On 2 May 2019, at 09:43, Tor Revolution <
> isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Per your LinkedIn:
> >
> > You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United States
> which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence
> Community
> > You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United
> States Navy's version of the National Security Agency
> > You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I
> wonder why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor
> >
> > Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad that
> the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all of
> the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US Federal
> Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. You are probably trying
> to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one cares
> about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do it
> but obviously it's not a big issue!!! It's not a big issue to spin up our
> Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!!
> >
> > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 11:10:18 +0200
> From: Herbert Karl Mathé <mail at hkmathe.de>
> To: Tor Revolution <isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com>
> Cc: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org, "tor-talk at lists.torproject.org"
> <tor-talk at lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] [tor-relays] Explain yourself Conrad
> Rockenhaus
> Message-ID: <20190502110924.70ca1a53 at host.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I strongly believe certain issues need be brought up into conscious, and
> into presence: into discussion, actually.
>
> Therefore appreciating this as it might fit too well into context, at the
> same time definitely deprecating 'filth' and similar.
>
> Keeping things below surface, or trying so, has too often proven to be a
> very bad idea as these will come up sooner or later anyway, then with much
> higher magnitude. Even worse, trust is then destroyed.
>
> --
> Herbert Karl Mathé
>
> mail at hkmathe.de
> PGP B9BF953500452875 https://www.hkmathe.de/pub_key_16-07-09.txt
> @hkmathe
> Beethovenstr. 13 60325 Frankfurt Germany
>
>
> No memory, no desire.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 02 May 2019 08:55:27 +0000
> Tor Revolution <isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > This is another reminder to please keep posts on-topic and civil.
> > >
> > > This is not the place for personal attacks.
> > >
> >
> > The sooner that the Tor community is rid of this filth known as "Conrad
> Rockenhaus" the sooner people will stop talking about him. Why are you
> defending him?
> >
> > >
> > > > On 2 May 2019, at 09:43, Tor Revolution
> isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com wrote:
> > > > Per your LinkedIn:
> > > > You worked at the National Reconnaissance Office of the United
> States which is the most secretive branch of the United States Intelligence
> Community
> > > > You worked at the Naval Security Group Activity which is the United
> States Navy's version of the National Security Agency
> > > > You have a Security Clearance but you don't specify what type but I
> wonder why someone with a SECURITY CLEARANCE would want to work with Tor
> > > > Teor called you out months ago as a US Government Spy and I'm glad
> that the Tor Community Council is calling you out with. People can post all
> of the advertising in the world but as long as you're called out Mr US
> Federal Government Spy then they're doing the right thing. You are probably
> trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD stuff that no one
> cares about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD on Tor they would do
> it but obviously it's not a big issue!!! It's not a big issue to spin up
> our Hetzner exits at least we know that a spy not you isnt doing it!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> > > >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 12:10:42 +0200
> From: René Ladan <r.c.ladan at gmail.com>
> To: tor-talk at lists.torproject.org
> Cc: tor-relays at lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor diversity (was: Explain yourself Conrad
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> Op do 2 mei 2019 09:43 schreef Tor Revolution <
> isupportthenewrevolution at protonmail.com>:
>
> > You are probably trying to push hacked FreeBSD or that hacked HardenedBSD
> > stuff that no one cares about anyway. If people cared about more FreeBSD
> on
> > Tor they would do it but obviously it's not a big issue!!!
> >
>
> Ignoring half-baked accusations against Conrad for now.
>
> Having relays running something else than Ubuntu *is* an important issue.
> This does not have to be FreeBSD/HardenedBSD, it can also be
> OpenBSD/NetBSD, MacOS, or even Windows. The point is that if someone (say
> the NSA) discovers a bug in Ubuntu which they can use to take over relays,
> and 95% (or so) of the relays run Ubuntu, then they can take over Tor. If a
> significant part of the relays run something else, then those relays are
> safe for the exploit and consequently becomes harder for the NSA to take
> over Tor.
>
> As for why 95% of the relays runs on Ubuntu, I guess it is legacy. At least
> https://support.torproject.org/#operators advertises multiple operating
> systems.
>
> See also https://torbsd.github.io/
>
> René (running "ymkeo" on FreeBSD for almost 5 years now)
>
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