[tor-talk] torbrowser login problems, no cookies set, other. trac.torproject

Joe joebtfsplk at gmx.com
Thu Sep 20 18:59:30 UTC 2018


Hmm.  I'm a bit surprised no one's said either, "/works great for me/," 
or "/I have similar, or other problems" with TBB 8 and noscript 10./
I've seen a number of non tor-talk / torproject comments of similar 
problems.

Maybe it's just no one reading tor-talk ATM, has experience w/ my 
specific issues or (like me) has no "fixes" to suggest - which is OK.

On 09/19/2018 06:40 PM, Joe wrote:
> If anyone can give insight, or several users each give a useful tip, I'd
> appreciate it.  I'm burned out on NS v10 issues.
>
> In Linux, TBB 8 with noscript 10.1.9.6 is giving problems, loading
> content and/ or logging into sites.
> There are several sites that haven't worked right since NS 10.x (latest
> .1.9.6) & TBB v8.  No matter what settings, or if ALL NS settings are
> allowed.
>
> I installed SAME version NS in *Firefox 60.1 esr*.  Checked that the
> "Trusted" mode in NS had same settings checked in TBB & Fx.
>
> In TBB, I can log into trac, but loading another page (e.g. view
> tickets), trac apparently sees no cookie & tells me I'm not logged in.
> Trac displays messages, "Missing or invalid form token. Do you have
> cookies enabled?"
> "SEARCH_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation. You
> don't have the required permissions."
>
> In TBB Prefs / Privacy settings, cookies are blocked, BUT exceptions are
> set to allow session cookies on both https://torproject.org &
> ...trac.torproject..., and many other sites.
> Disabling NS in TBB, restarting & reloading trac site - same problems.
>
> So TBB SHOULD be allowing session cookies - it's not. This has always
> worked , but we didn't have NS quantum.
> Again, it's not JUST torproject site w/ a problem loading content or
> logging in under TBB 8 & NS 10.xxx.
>
> In Firefox 60.1 esr w/ NS 10.x, I have same NS settings as in TBB. The
> same "cookies blocked" in preferences.
> For sites w/ session cookie exceptions, I can NOT SEE cookies listed in
> Fx Prefs / Manage Data - just a blank screen.
> But in Fx 60, R click on any site's - "page info" - that has session
> cookie exceptions stored in Fx, then I see the cookies names & content.
>
> issue 1: Those cookies aren't visible in Fx 60 w/ NS 10.x, under Privacy
> - "manage data", (formerly "show cookies").  But are visible viewing the
> page info> Security tab.
>
> issue 2: Even on some sites not requiring cookies to "work," TBB v8 & NS
> v10 are having problems displaying some sites correctly, or at all.
> Where the same sites will usually work in Fx 60 w/ NS v10 (same settings
> as in TBB), whether cookies are needed or not for the site to work.
>
> issue 3: In Fx 60 w/ NS 10, when restart in safe mode w/ (the only)
> addon disabled, suddenly any set cookies NOW ARE visible in
> Prefs>Privacy>Cookies> Manage Data.
> At least in Fx 60, it appears NS 10 is what's preventing set cookies
> from being visible under Privacy > Manage Data (but WERE visible under a
> site's Page Info>Privacy tab - even w/ NS installed). Therefore, likely
> the same NS issue in TBB.
>
> issue 4: In TBB, I uninstalled (not just disabled) NS and restarted.  No
> change.  Disabled HTTPS everywhere & restated - logged into trac.
> Same message "Missing or invalid form token. Do you have cookies
> enabled?" But there are NO errors or warnings (now) in web console.
>
> So removing NS 10 in Firefox 60esr FIXED problems of not being able to
> see cookies in Fx Privacy UI.
> ** I ALSO compared all cookie prefs in about:config for Fx 60 vs. TBB 8.
> They were all identical.  I don't think any cookie prefs were present in
> one browser but not the other.
>
> I've read the several NS 10 tutorials that NoScript's site or AMO page
> link. I think I understand it - especially if using same settings in
> both browsers.
> I don't think there's ANY NS v10 setting that should *prevent seeing
> cookies* in both TBB & Firefox.
> The most important is, sites that don't work at all in TBB (with or w/o
> cookies), often do work in Fx 60 w/ SAME settings as TBB 8 and NS.
>
> Personally, NS 10 may be "Not Ready For Prime Time" under TBB 8. TBB -
> itself moving to Fx quantum may not be ready.
>
>



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