[tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

[Blake Hadley]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Rick Evans <tmovoice at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tor was broken in beta long before it mainstream.  What would you day if I
> said there was a list of every tor user and relay and that list was started
> when there were as few as 800 users???  Saw the list way back when.  the
> government is willing to spend 7.55 billion to get into our shorts at the
> airport.
> What makes you think they wouldn't spend a couple million to make a bunch
> of tor relays that don't  play by the rules and swamp the system with a
> bunch of Tor Spybot relays?  Who needs vulnerabilities.
>


This is all well known.
The relay list isn't a secret at all, in fact you can view it here:
https://globe.torproject.org/

And sure, if you have a list of relays and you have a backdoor into the
ISPs, of course you can get a list of everyone who's ever connected to them.

That's why we take important steps to insurance privacy like using three
hops, and making identifying browser information look the same for every
user.