[tor-talk] Food for thought

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Sat Jun 18 22:40:08 UTC 2016


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On 06/18/2016 04:09 PM, foodforthought at sigaint.org wrote:
> 
>>> Things are never black and white, there are always two sides of
>>> a story and people are never only good or bad.
>>> 
>>> But was it really our first and foremost concern to find out
>>> the "truth"? Is the lesson to be learned, if you will, about
>>> who is to blame? About shaming the victims or shaming the
>>> alleged perpetrator? About whether or not the "accused" will be
>>> found "guilty"? Is an "evidence-based discussion" or "due
>>> process" really going to solve the greater issue here?

It's a beautiful thread, and yet I'm cutting here, and going off on a
tangent. I've never been Jake's friend, as far as I know. And I've
never been part of private discussions with Tor Project staff, and
only with a few volunteers, but never about non-technical matters.

So anyway, as this tragedy initially unfolded, it was the largely
anonymous, and unremittingly strident, quality of the accusations that
influenced me most. But now that other Tor devs and activists have
told their stories, and now that I've seen various leaked internal
documents, I'm convinced that Jake did some serious shit, and had to go.

Still, I'm left with a poor impression of just about everyone
involved. I don't mean to blame anyone. But damn, the Tor community
during the past few years comes across as a soap opera! And the code
that came out of that soap opera is what people are counting on?
Seriously?

But OK, maybe they "do good work".

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