[tor-talk] "But he does good work." *Appelbaum*

[chloe]

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> You have. You might consider that intelligent services have large
> amounts of resources. If this is a planned attack from a group of
> interested people, they are able to do so.

But then you can't trust Tor at all. If this is an attack from the
inside we should assume even worse.

> Excuse me, that's completely wrong. It's a pure propaganda lie
> from
Hitler which is falsified for long years meanwhile. Why don't you know
that? Is your justification over Jake from the same quality?

I know it's a well-known myth, that's why I said it was stupid. Should
have clarified that I knew that. Some people say that Hitler did good
work with the Autobahn and that's the same logic (even if it's true or
false) as with JA. The people that actually believes that Hitler
"created" the Autobahn says it was good work. It was just a comparison.

> Wrong. We have a legal system and a generic rule: someone has to
> be
assumed not guilty until the opposite is proofed. Doing not so is
immorality.

It doesn't need to be true or false. If the core members says that JA
harms the community we should act upon that. You argument is only true
if we are talking about the law. The Tor Project does not need any
actual proof to kick out JA, they can just follow what the members
what, that's how an organization works.

However, they should've support the decision based on evidence, yes.
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