[tor-talk] RIP Tor

Tue Jun 7 20:07:59 UTC 2016

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On 6/7/2016 1:30 PM, Rick Evans wrote:
> Could be Tor is not a honey pot, maybe it is Tar Baby.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Not Friendly
> <notfriendly at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-06-07 13:48, Anthony Papillion wrote:
>> 
> On 6/7/2016 12:13 PM, Not Friendly wrote:
> 
>>>>> On 2016-06-07 02:35, aaa at cock.lu wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> First they fall for the social justice meme thinking it's
>>>>>> a force for good. Then they allow the project to be
>>>>>> infiltrated by the blue haired problem glasses brigade.
>>>>>> Then they start modifying their community guidelines to
>>>>>> appease their new members, probably under the guise that
>>>>>> it's to prevent evil sexist MRAs from "harassing" (read:
>>>>>> disagreeing with) their new SJW friends. Then the SJWs
>>>>>> decide prominent members of the project need to be cyber
>>>>>> lynched so they can take over. "Jacob once farted in the 
>>>>>> same elevator as me, it was literally rape! 
>>>>>> #FireHimOrTorIsRapists" "Jacob once disagreed with me, it
>>>>>> was a legitimate death threat that made me fear for my
>>>>>> life! #FireHimOrTorWantsToKillAllWomen" "He once
>>>>>> mentioned playing a video game, I knew he was a
>>>>>> gamergater! Damn misogynist hates women!
>>>>>> #KillAllWhiteMen" Then Tor loses their best spokesman.
>>>>>> The SJWs and their friends fill the now empty jobs and
>>>>>> repeat the process until they're the only ones with power
>>>>>> over the project. Then Tor dies, since the only "work"
>>>>>> that gets done is virtue signalling on Twitter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's only a matter of time before they eat Nick or
>>>>>> Roger.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RIP Jacob. RIP Tor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usually I get a lot of schadenfreude from watching
>>>>>> idiots destroy themselves like this, but Tor is close to
>>>>>> my heart so I'm quite sad. The NSA has won.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm unsure how "Tor" has in anyway died. The network is
>>>>> still secure. They only thing that happened is that a
>>>>> former member of the Tor Project has bad publicity. I'm
>>>>> unsure how that makes Tor dead.
>>>>> 
> 
> It doesn't. The Tor haters never miss an opportunity to declare
> Tor "dead". "Oh! It's Tuesday! RIP Tor!". It's often the same crowd
> (or associates of them) that love to declare Tor a honeypot for
> the federal government.
> 
> Anyway, I'm just wondering when this list move beyond the recent 
> sensationalism and back to actually discussing Tor.
> 
> 
> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I do not understand why those people think that Tor is a honeypot
>> by the federal government. It is OPEN SOURCE. If you are by any
>> means worried look at the source code and compile it manually.
>> There is no hiding a backdoor. Unless every relay operator is
>> helping the federal government (which at that point the
>> information would leak) then there isn't a way to backdoor Tor. I
>> don't understand why people do not take the time to research
>> things.
>> 
>> -- Not Friendly

Because, I suspect, most of those people couldn't evaluate even the
simplest C++ program for security. It's much easier just to parrot the
controversial "honeypot" line than it is to actually look at the code.
Some of them are just lazy. But then I guess there are legit concerns
surrounding relays. THAT would likely be the easiest point of attack
on the network