[tor-talk] Decoding Jake Appelbaum

[Not Friendly]

On 2016-06-07 09:51, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> Cari, I was raped twice.  Different guys, different countries, several
> years between an event and other.
> 
> I am a small cute girl, even acting like an old grumpy lady.  Both were
> much bigger than me.  I have some sad scars.  One of them burned my 
> body
> with cigarretes.  I was a teenager.  My tattoos hide part of my scars.
> 
> The second rape was pretty disturbing because he was my friend and I 
> was
> sleeping.  This guy has his own scars and traums now.  I have lovely 
> long
> nails and I am not exactly a good person when defending my family and
> friends.
> 
> Usually, I don't care so much about myself, but I was deeply in love 
> with
> the sweetest man in the world and, in that moment, I remember I just 
> wanted
> to live enough to tell him about my feelings.  So I did everything I 
> could
> to survive.
> 
> I am still alive.  I still love the sweetest man in the world, but now 
> he
> doesn't love me anymore.  It hurts much more than be raped, I swear.
> 
> Well, just told you part of my past, because I know very well what 
> means
> being a victim and feel despair.  I know, in a very intense and deep 
> way,
> what means to feel psychological and physical pain.  Believe me, I had
> lovely experiences about harassment in different levels too.  I tried
> suicide once, some months ago, because I just wanted to stop the pain.  
> I
> just wanted to sleep again.
> 
> After these experiences, I didn't learn how to hate men or cigarretes.  
> I
> learned why I need to hate lies.
> 
> Cecilia
> 
> PS:  -  Sorry, I crying a lot and my English probably is a shame, but 
> if I
> try to correct the mistakes, I am sure I won't send this message 
> anymore.
> On Jun 7, 2016 10:05 AM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> all this shit talk on here is like why people dont come forward when 
>> raped
>> 
>> there was a suspension after tor received info about harassment before
>> (hint: that matters) and as i said the organization was not dealing 
>> with
>> this in any concrete way as they are now setting up protocol
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > not friendly cant read and doesnt know who andy greenberg is?
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:41 AM, Not Friendly <notfriendly at riseup.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> It's really bad now that the media took notice. This whole thing started
>> >> as a small memo on a mailing list. And now it blows into some big media
>> >> story. Jacob never had a chance to explain before the media started
>> writing
>> >> as many articles as possible. The writers of this article didn't even
>> >> attempt to contact Jacob himself but rather simply the site owners. If
>> your
>> >> going to present your self as a "reputable media outlet" then write
>> about
>> >> both sides of the story.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Not Friendly
>> >>
>> >> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:09 PM, ja.talk <ja.talk at yandex.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> https://www.wired.com/2016/06/tor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-resigns-amid-sex-abuse-claims/
>> >> >
>> >> > Andy Greenberg
>> >> >
>> >> > Tor Developer Jacob Appelbaum Resigns Amid Sex Abuse Claims
>> >> >
>> >> > Jacob Appelbaum has courted controversy throughout his career as a
>> >> privacy and transparency activist, picking fights with several of the
>> >> world’s most powerful government agencies over surveillance and state
>> >> secrecy. Now he’s at the center of an entirely different sort of
>> >> controversy: accused of rampant sexual and emotional abuse.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Saturday, the privacy-focused non-profit Tor Project where
>> Appelbaum
>> >> held a position as a developer and activist released a statement
>> explaining
>> >> that Appelbaum had resigned from his position with the group as a
>> result of
>> >> a series of “serious, public allegations of sexual mistreatment” made by
>> >> unnamed victims against 33-year-old Appelbaum. An anonymous website
>> >> collecting testimonials from those alleged victims published the same
>> day,
>> >> with five victims detailing claims that range from uninvited groping and
>> >> kissing to rape.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Monday morning, Appelbaum responded to the accusations in a
>> >> statement, calling them “a calculated and targeted attack [that] has
>> been
>> >> launched to spread vicious and spurious allegations against me.” He
>> added,
>> >> “I want to be clear: the accusations of criminal sexual misconduct
>> against
>> >> me are entirely false.” His publicist Claudia Tomassini responded to
>> >> WIRED’s request for comment from Appelbaum to say that his “legal team
>> is
>> >> working on an injunction against these monstrous and factually incorrect
>> >> accusations.”
>> >> >
>> >> > WIRED couldn’t independently verify the stories on the website created
>> >> by Appelbaum’s accusers, who used pseudonyms, nor determine the creator
>> of
>> >> the site itself. But Andrea Shepard, a Berlin-based developer co-worker
>> of
>> >> Appelbaum’s at the Tor Project, says the site was created by a “longtime
>> >> member of the Tor community” whom she knows and trusts. Shepard also
>> says
>> >> she’s spoken directly with one of Appelbaum’s alleged victims, who told
>> >> Shepard in February of this year that Appelbaum had raped him or her.
>> >> “Sadly…I think it’s the damn truth. He’s a charismatic, socially
>> dominant
>> >> manipulator,” Shepard writes to WIRED. “I absolutely believe the
>> accusers.”
>> >> >
>> >> > Shepard says that Tor’s management had suspected Appelbaum of sexual
>> >> misconduct for months. And the revelation of another alleged victim in
>> >> recent weeks had accelerated calls to force his resignation from the
>> >> organization, a push led by Tor’s executive Director Shari Steele. The
>> Tor
>> >> Project’s statement, written by Steele herself, echoed that timeline.
>> >> “These types of allegations were not entirely new to everybody at Tor;
>> they
>> >> were consistent with rumors some of us had been hearing for some time.
>> That
>> >> said, the most recent allegations are much more serious and concrete
>> than
>> >> anything we had heard previously,” Steele writes. “We are deeply
>> troubled
>> >> by these accounts.”
>> >> >
>> >> > Hacker Elite
>> >> >
>> >> > For years, Appelbaum has held near-rockstar status within the hacker
>> >> community. In 2010 he keynoted the HOPE hacker conference, outing
>> himself
>> >> as a collaborator with WikiLeaks—its only publicly known American
>> >> staffer—just as it was ramping up its record-breaking Pentagon and State
>> >> Department leaks. (A Rolling Stone magazine profile a couple of months
>> >> later called him “the most dangerous man in cyberspace.”)
>> >> >
>> >> > Likely as a result of his WikiLeaks work, Google and his internet
>> >> service provider Sonic.net received court orders demanding Appelbaum’s
>> >> communications as part of a grand jury investigation in 2011. Appelbaum
>> >> wasn’t indicted, but has said that he was repeatedly harassed and
>> detained
>> >> at U.S. border crossings by agents of the Department of Homeland
>> Security’s
>> >> Customs and Border Protection. To avoid run-ins with the American
>> >> government, he moved to Berlin. As a hacker exile he’s continued to work
>> >> for Tor and also contributed to the analysis and publication of NSA
>> leaker
>> >> Edward Snowden’s classified documents, as well as other surveillance
>> >> investigations in the German newspaper Der Spiegel.1
>> >> >
>> >> > But Shepard, who also lives in Berlin, says she could see a pattern of
>> >> troubling behavior that led her to distance herself from Appelbaum. In
>> >> 2013, she recalls, Appelbaum told Shepard in a bar in front of another
>> >> colleague that he was going to have sex with her, using a misogynistic
>> >> phrase. In late 2014, she says he aggressively snatched a phone out of
>> her
>> >> hands at a hacker conference. And in the spring of last year she says he
>> >> was suspended from his position at Tor for two weeks without pay due to
>> a
>> >> harassment incident.
>> >> >
>> >> > A Familiar Pattern
>> >> >
>> >> > The scandal’s implications could go well beyond the Tor Project, which
>> >> maintains the highly-regarded Tor anonymity software. It also highlights
>> >> the broader hacker community’s long-running problem with sexism and
>> sexual
>> >> harassment. The notion, as Tor’s executive director Steele wrote, that
>> >> rumors about Appelbaum weren’t new but had been ignored, portrays a
>> >> community that turns a blind eye to the inequality or even mistreatment
>> of
>> >> women. As University of Pennsylvania’s well-known computer security
>> >> professor Matt Blaze wrote on Twitter, “our community (larger than Tor)
>> >> failed badly here.”
>> >> >
>> >> > Tor’s executive director Steele, meanwhile, urged in her note about
>> >> Appelbaum that anyone who thinks they may be a victim of criminal
>> behavior
>> >> should talk to law enforcement. “Going forward, we want the Tor
>> community
>> >> to be a place where all participants can feel safe and supported in
>> their
>> >> work,” she added. “We are committed to doing better in the future.”
>> >> >
>> >> > 1Correction 6/6/2016 9:55am EST: An earlier version of the story said
>> >> that Google and Sonic.net were subpoenaed for Appelbaum’s data in 2011,
>> >> when in fact they received a 2703(d) court order.
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cari Machet
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You don't have to worry if your English isn't perfect. That's a very 
personal account of what happened to you.

As to:
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Cari Machet <carimachet at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > not friendly cant read and doesnt know who andy greenberg is?
>> >
I actually do have to ability read and write very proficient English.

In addition even if I'm using a pseudonym it would be considerate if the 
above writer of the quote to please spell my name correctly. It is 
spelled "Not Friendly" with capitals at the first of each time.

Especially if you choose to write something rather rude about me, please 
do so in a considerate manner.

As to Andy Greenberg (by the way just a reminder the first letter of 
names are capitalized in English) I apologize for not having details on 
every single human memorized. However from what I can find with a quick 
search he is a writer for "WIRED".

All of that being said my point was that the article stated that they 
couldn't determine the creator of the site yet made no attempt to 
contact Jacob and ask his side of the story.

-- 
Not Friendly