[tor-talk] Tor (and other nets) probably screwed by Traffic Analysis by now

[notfriendly at riseup.net]

On 2016-06-05 19:02, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> Personally the idea of storing a ton of data isn't the best for me
> so rather I simply use Tor + private search engines and trust it to
> protect me.
> ton = ?
> -Jonathan
> 
>     On Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:15 PM, "notfriendly at riseup.net"
> <notfriendly at riseup.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>  On 2016-06-05 17:59, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>> Another idea is to use
>>> search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or 
>>> duckduckgo
>>> (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they
>>> don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is).
>> Those are solutions of a different kind.  What I'm trying to describe
>> is
>> an "everyone gets everything" private information retrieval approach,
>> but where the "everything" stored on your machine has enormous value
>> to you, outside of its role as cover traffic.
>> -Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>     On Sunday, June 5, 2016 4:49 PM, "notfriendly at riseup.net"
>> <notfriendly at riseup.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>   On 2016-06-05 13:38, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>> Prediction market (place your bids):
>>>> "First networks utilizing fill traffic as TA countermeasure to
>>> emerge and reach early deployment by year end 2017..."
>>> It's a bit off-topic, but it's worth keeping in mind what
>>> the greater free software community is good at-- like
>>> replicating data-- and what it isn't-- like hiding data.
>>> For example-- if you've been afraid to look up something
>>> on Wikipedia for fear of typing "those words" into Google
>>> or Wikipedia, just download Wikipedia.  They have all the
>>> tools and docs to help you do that, with an archive format
>>> that probably fits very comfortably in your free hard drive
>>> space.
>>> If anyone does this, you'll immediately notice the benefit
>>> of the approach: that cover traffic isn't just random
>>> data-- it's Wikipedia.  You can use it for future queries
>>> regardless of subject matter, with a greater probability of
>>> privacy than anything a future cover-traffic network can get
>>> you.
>>> There are many other examples out there.  If you spend
>>> a little time each week thinking about this approach you'll
>>> find it changes how you use the web and internet.  Those
>>> changes will affect your values, and if enough people do
>>> this it obviously affects what we want and need out of a
>>> future cover-traffic network.
>>> 
>>> -Jonathan
>> 
>> The idea of downloading the Wikipedia archives is pretty good since it
>> doesn't note the content you were looking for. Another idea is to use
>> search engines that protect your privacy such as ixquick or duckduckgo
>> (they store search queries but they don't track individuals (I.e they
>> don't store your IP Address, as far as we know that is).
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> Absolutely whoever is monitoring (aka spying) on your traffic if they
> see you downloaded everything it's hard to determine what your looking
> for. Personally the idea of storing a ton of data isn't the best for me
> so rather I simply use Tor + private search engines and trust it to
> protect me.
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Yes it's proven that Tor IS NOT backdoored meaning that you are safe to 
use tor and a private search engine like ixquick or duckduckgo to stay 
safe.