[tor-talk] EU Intel Property Office Report Hates on Tor, Bitcoin, Bittorrent, Goods Pirates and Models

Conrad Rockenhaus conrad.rockenhaus at riseup.net
Tue Jul 26 20:47:43 UTC 2016


Just a short answer to your rant  - you are correct about the embrace of 
mp3.  Had they done it sooner, they would of banked in quite a bit of 
money.

Regards,

Conrad Rockenhaus

On 2016-07-25 09:44, Friet Pan wrote:
> Sounds a bit like the war on drugs.
> 
> They refuse to look at the cause of the problem, but jump around the
> effect like their pants are on fire.
> 
> oooo the effect is sooooooooo scary, but refuse to see that THEY are
> the ones who caused it.
> 
> In case of the music industry, they ignored MP3, then they ignored,
> napster and co. then they sued napster when the damage was done and
> out of control.
> 
> 
> If they had embraced MP3 in the very beginning, and had ran their own
> donwload sites at fair prices, then there would not have been a need
> for pirates, it wouldn't even make sense.
> 
> But the music industry is greedy, and always wants MORE profit, so
> they make stuff artificially expensive and then moan that people give
> copies to their friends. I have an insane record collection, and when
> i download a track that i already own on Vinyl, on CD, or on BOTH,
> then they still want MORE money, i already paid the damn thing TWICE,
> so why is it a problem to download it?. Is it illegal? NO. Then why
> moan about it?
> And if there is no money in making music, then why do studio's still
> record music?, Why do record labels still produce music? If there was
> no profit then there would be no product. They still make music, and
> still make a living.  And now people try before they buy, they
> download, and find new music that the industry does not promote on the
> radio. And more artist make a chance to make money, all over the
> world, not in a small region.
> 
> So that part is one big lie. Torrents do more music promotion then
> what radio ever accomplished.
> 
> 
> But thats off topic i guess...  I had to say something about it. It's
> just silly.
> 
> 
> If you want fame in the 21th century, then make sure you have a
> torrent available. And you can make yourself more popular then
> 21thcentury fox can do for you with all the money in the world.
> 
> And for TAX it doesn't matter, Servers make TAX, advertisment makes
> TAX, Concerts make TAX, more then ever before.
> 
> I'm not promoting piracy, i'm only saying that the music industy is
> barking up the wrong tree, torrents SELL MUSIC and without the need of
> bribing corrupt radio hosts.. It's cheaper then radio.
> 
> The other topic have similar answers, movie industry is a bit
> different, buy they could have used torrent as a distribution
> mechanism, and made money without expensive servers and datapipes.
> 
> It's their own mistake, and now they need someone to blame. So if TOR
> can protect people who are human and share their cooking recipes then
> that's all good. Without sharing data the human race would be more
> like a bunch of chimps fighting over a branch. If the music industry
> manages to put us in a zoo where we need to pay to look outside, then
> we are like chimps in a boring zoo without any visitors.
> 
> thats not human....
> 
> Damn, i got pissed.... My apologies for my ranting... i'll buy some
> music next week...
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> A new report published by the European Union Intellectual Property
> Office ....



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