[tor-talk] Clear net and Tor site on the same server

Tyler Hardin th020394 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 26 20:57:03 UTC 2015

Oops. Server = hidden service and node = relay. It made sense in my mind,
but precision is important. I'm already kinda tight on my bitcoin node
(190/256MB). Averaging 1MByte/s and 20 simultaneous connections, would it
be worth trying to squeeze a Tor hidden service in there? What are the
determinants of the memory use? Is it more # of connections or rate of

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Roger Dingledine <arma at mit.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 04:17:37PM -0400, Tyler Hardin wrote:
> > Why is it suggested not to do this? Does it matter as long as I'm not at
> > all concerned about privacy? I want to run a wallet-less bitcoin node and
> > thought I might as well make it accessible via Tor, however it definitely
> > isn't worth paying for an extra server to serve as a dedicated proxy.
> Right, I think it is fine to run a normal website on the Internet and also
> make it available as an onion site by running Tor on the same computer.
> It all comes down to what security goals you have in mind. If one of
> your goals is to protect the location of the website so people visiting
> it cannot learn where it is, then you have many more things you ought
> to think about.
> But for your situation, it sounds fine. For background you might enjoy:
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/facebook-hidden-services-and-https-certs
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2015-May/thread.html#37820
> > BTW, what kind of memory usage can I get by with to run a Tor server? How
> > about a Tor node?
> These phrases "Tor server" and "Tor node" are ambiguous. You might enjoy
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#ConfigureRelayOrBridge
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#ExitPolicies
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services
> Running a Tor relay can use quite a bit of memory depending on how much
> traffic it's handling. Running a Tor bridge generally means you're
> handling much less traffic, and so the memory footprint is much lower.
> And running an onion service (aka hidden service) is usually very low
> memory footprint too, but it depends how popular the service is.
> Hope that helps,
> --Roger
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