[tor-talk] ATOMIC BANJO and LEVITATION used by CSE

[spencerone at openmailbox.org]

> mirimir[at]riseup.net:
>> spencerone[at]openmailbox.org:
>>> paul.syverson[at]nrl.navy.mil:
>>>> See p. 129 of 
>>>> http://www.acsac.org/2011/program/keynotes/syverson.pdf
>>>> also
>>>> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhyCalledTor
>>>> 
>>>> aloha,
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> (Note, the German meaning of 'Tor' mentioned in the FAQ is discussed
>>>> in the "A Peel of Onion"
>>>> paper, the Turkish meaning is apparently a fine-meshed net.)
>>> 
>>> Awesome, that kinda makes sense, tough, given that Tor is THE onion
>>> router, I think referring to Tor as TOR is still accurate :)
> 
> No, Tor is not "THE onion router". It's _an_ onion router :)
> 
> You should rather say Tor is not _the_ onion routing, it's _an_ onion
> routing: cf. p. 129 again---except this is not the 'the' of definite
> description but the 'the' of "The original and still the best". (I got
> this phrase from Roger Needham in 1993.  He was talking about BAN
> logic, and said he got the phrase from a shoe polish tin.)
> 
> aloha,
> Paul

"The original and still the best" is what THE means to me :) Though 
[ing] vs [er] seems debatable since Tor is a thing that does onion-like 
layered routing.

But, to understand more, are the other onion routing projects 
implementing their own onion routing protocol or are they implementing 
Tor? I could investigate this myself but I don't know enough to figure 
out the difference unless explicitly stated.

Wordlife,
SpencerOne