[tor-talk] Article: Best Alternatives to Tor

Aymeric Vitte vitteaymeric at gmail.com
Mon Sep 22 15:44:32 UTC 2014


Funny article indeed...

But the homework was not so good, he forgot Peersm (!!), and we learn 
that Peerblock is free, but the article forget to mention that the 
blocklists are not free :-), so Peerblock without blocklists is probably 
not very efficient...

And when we look at the blocklists that's not very convincing... I have 
collected during this summer a lot of supposed spies via [1], it seems 
that the total is converging now but still new supposed spies are 
coming, I have to analyze this when I have time, one obvious focus will 
be to understand how well known non spies end up in the blocklist... and 
if all Tor exit nodes (+VPNs) are there.

[1] https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live#findspies

Le 22/09/2014 16:19, Elrippo a écrit :
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> This writer has absolutely no clew what she/he is writing about.
> Absolutely no scientific proof, just copy/paste the FAQ articles of some sites and claim TOR is compromised.
> Sad how disinformation again finds its way on a "professional" homepage..
>
> On 22. September 2014 13:45:57 MESZ, Colin Mahns <colinmahns at riseup.net> wrote:
>> I like how a couple of the alternatives to "Tor" in this article are
>> Tails and Whonix. What do they use for anonymity again? Oh yeah, Tor...
>>
>> They also list Disconnect and Tox as an alternative, and then quickly
>> say they aren't alternatives. I'd say this writer was hoping for
>> clickbait.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> Virgil Griffith wrote:
>>> Articles like these are irresponsible.  But at least the journalist
>> did
>>> sufficient homework to find a few "alternatives" I hadn't heard of.
>>>
>>> -V
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 22, 2014, Katya Titov <kattitov at yandex.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Article named "Best Alternatives to Tor: 12 Programs to Use Since
>> NSA,
>>>> Hackers Compromised Tor Project":
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.idigitaltimes.com/best-alternatives-tor-12-programs-use-nsa-hackers-compromised-tor-project-376976
>>>> Some quotes:
>>>>
>>>> "Tor has been compromised, the Tor Project has recently suffered
>> from
>>>> two security setbacks which have called into question just how safe
>>>> users on the anonymity service are."
>>>>
>>>> "In any case, it's best to assume that Tor has been compromised by
>> the
>>>> NSA, DHS, FBI and pretty much any other government intelligence
>> agency,
>>>> domestic and foreign."
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